Ampere Analysis / Console Sales: PS5 (21.7 million), Xbox Series X|S (13.8 million)

[Vertigo]

There’s an easier way to deal with DC… just show him how Halo Infinite is the biggest flop of the last decade. At least Anthem actually sold thru 5 million and actually asked people for money.

“Bu bu Halo Infinite set records and has 20 million players”

Xbox pr spin is amazing at lying about failure.

I mean look at this shit. This looks worse than my investments during first two years of the biden economy…. Sigh

 

[FatKaz]

There’s an easier way to deal with DC… just show him how Halo Infinite is the biggest flop of the last decade. At least Anthem actually sold thru 5 million and actually asked people for money.

“Bu bu Halo Infinite set records and has 20 million players”

Xbox pr spin is amazing at lying about failure.

I mean look at this shit. This looks worse than my investments during first two years of the biden economy…. Sigh

How much did that shit cost to make? Could be up there as the biggest flop this gen so far.

 

[Vertigo]

How much did that shit cost to make? Could be up there as the biggest flop this gen so far.

Has to be one of the biggest flops of all time. 200+ person studio, who outsources art asset creation to cheap labor in India. Wasted half a decade conceptualizing stuff that went nowhere. And now requiring an outside studio to make a product for the game people will actually maybe play. Cross media campaign with a fucking high budget tv show that was supposed to increase brand awareness but instead hurt it more. Like for fucks sake … LOL

I want to say it’s the biggest blunder of all time.

 

[Dabaus]

There’s an easier way to deal with DC… just show him how Halo Infinite is the biggest flop of the last decade. At least Anthem actually sold thru 5 million and actually asked people for money.

“Bu bu Halo Infinite set records and has 20 million players”

Xbox pr spin is amazing at lying about failure.

I mean look at this shit. This looks worse than my investments during first two years of the biden economy…. Sigh

Ive come to the recent conclusion that its not xbox is have a distaste for per se, its their toxic fanbase. Xbox is what it is, but the fanbase excuses failure after failure and hypes up boring, mundane, low quality games the next greatest game ever. The cultist behavior on twitter is a sight to behold because xbox hasnt done a single thing in the last 15 years to deserve that type of insane devotion.

 

[Vertigo]

The vocal fanbase on the internet is a whatever. You can see what they play and it’s no different than the rest of the industry.

Don’t condemn gamers because Dynamite Cop is sworn to Microsoft. It’s not about the quality of the games or the devs that make them. It’s about Microsoft being powerful. That’s it.

Fuck Xbox bro. Microsoft is just a friggin vulture that can no longer create success and has to buy Minecraft and CoD to claim they own successful game products. I’m not gonna pretend like I’m not happy to see their soulless game factory flop.

OG Xbox was amazing. Well everyone who made that great like Bungie and epic left to do bigger things.

They’ve spent 100 billion so far and you’ve still got nothing to show for it other sub with no exciting content coming for a year.

 

[ParaSeoul]

The vocal fanbase on the internet is a whatever. You can see what they play and it’s no different than the rest of the industry.

Don’t condemn gamers because Dynamite Cop is sworn to Microsoft. It’s not about the quality of the games or the devs that make them. It’s about Microsoft being powerful. That’s it.

Fuck Xbox bro. Microsoft is just a friggin vulture that can no longer create success and has to buy Minecraft and CoD to claim they own successful game products. I’m not gonna pretend like I’m not happy to see their soulless game factory flop.

OG Xbox was amazing. Well everyone who made that great like Bungie and epic left to do bigger things.

They’ve spent 100 billion so far and you’ve still got nothing to show for it other sub with no exciting content coming for a year.

Xbox started out as a worthy competitor,had a lot of great passionate people working there. Peter Moore made sure the early days of 360 finally gave Playstation a challenge. But everyone knows those days are gone. The division is just filled with suits who think quantity>quality and gave the industry the worst ideas.

 

[azertydu91]

Xbox started out as a worthy competitor,had a lot of great passionate people working there. Peter Moore made sure the early days of 360 finally gave Playstation a challenge. But everyone knows those days are gone. The division is just filled with suits who think quantity>quality and gave the industry the worst ideas.

I think Seamus blackley should replace Spencer, he seems like a genuine guy that I had the chance to talk with (unbeknownst to me a the time)when he came to, I think it was the reboot of the pgw.It's only one of my friend that recognized him but he seemed like a great guy.

 

[Papacheeks]

The vocal fanbase on the internet is a whatever. You can see what they play and it’s no different than the rest of the industry.

Don’t condemn gamers because Dynamite Cop is sworn to Microsoft. It’s not about the quality of the games or the devs that make them. It’s about Microsoft being powerful. That’s it.

Fuck Xbox bro. Microsoft is just a friggin vulture that can no longer create success and has to buy Minecraft and CoD to claim they own successful game products. I’m not gonna pretend like I’m not happy to see their soulless game factory flop.

OG Xbox was amazing. Well everyone who made that great like Bungie and epic left to do bigger things.

They’ve spent 100 billion so far and you’ve still got nothing to show for it other sub with no exciting content coming for a year.

I think what is kind of shitty, is all these bootlickers and shills like Colteastwood, on top of execs from Xbox who push a narrative that Xbox is doing better than Playstation or is doing better than it actually is. LIke anything better than Xbox One is great. But its nowhere near in the same league as where XBox360 was in terms of excitement, games, ect. Right now they are doing better than the first 2 years of xbox in terms of hardware being moved.
But Brands like Halo, and gears are nowhere near what they were now compared to what they were when they launches Gears of war 1, Halo 3 back on xbox 360.

People were playing Halo 3 well into when they launched fucking halo 4 in 2012.
If you think not releasing one game for 2022 is fine, and Pentiment is going to compete with God of war and Last of us? Like wtf are we even talking about?


I am surprised of no big Third party game coming day one on gamepass? And if the numbers are true or close to these estimates than 2022 was a bad year for xbox all around.

And you hope 2023 looks better because 2023 is going to be Square-Enix's second coming, on top of if SPiderman 2 keeps its timeline. FF16, FFVII REBIRTH with Spiderman 2 to me is hard to beat starfield or not.

I think Seamus blackley should replace Spencer, he seems like a genuine guy that I had the chance to talk with (unbeknownst to me a the time)when he came to, I think it was the reboot of the pgw.It's only one of my friend that recognized him but he seemed like a great guy.

I want this too, but Seamus left gaming decades ago. I think he still could do it, but he would want to get rid of booty and create his own team.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

The takes in this thread are entertaining, to say the least. It's gonna be a very long generation for some of you

 

[azertydu91]

I think what is kind of shitty, is all these bootlickers and shills like Colteastwood, on top of execs from Xbox who push a narrative that Xbox is doing better than Playstation or is doing better than it actually is. LIke anything better than Xbox One is great. But its nowhere near in the same league as where XBox360 was in terms of excitement, games, ect. Right now they are doing better than the first 2 years of xbox in terms of hardware being moved.
But Brands like Halo, and gears are nowhere near what they were now compared to what they were when they launches Gears of war 1, Halo 3 back on xbox 360.

People were playing Halo 3 well into when they launched fucking halo 4 in 2012.
If you think not releasing one game for 2022 is fine, and Pentiment is going to compete with God of war and Last of us? Like wtf are we even talking about?


I am surprised of no big Third party game coming day one on gamepass? And if the numbers are true or close to these estimates than 2022 was a bad year for xbox all around.

And you hope 2023 looks better because 2023 is going to be Square-Enix's second coming, on top of if SPiderman 2 keeps its timeline. FF16, FFVII REBIRTH with Spiderman 2 to me is hard to beat starfield or not.



I want this too, but Seamus left gaming decades ago. I think he still could do it, but he would want to get rid of booty and create his own team.

Man the guy was so genuine and passionate, I remember he was talking, well more trying to discuss with a guy from the Xbox stand but the french could barely speak english so I stepped in to help him and before I realized the Xbox guy left and I was just talking to him...I gotta admit at some point we started to talk about technology but he was too knowledgeable for me and I told him that I couldn't follow anymore.
But yeah great guy if I can judge from that little discussion we had.

 

[Yurinka]

It doesn't make sense to analyze these numbers because Series X (not S) and specially PS5 are heavily supply constrained, but Xbox is selling better than I expected.

 

[Bryank75]

@DynamiteCop You are at risk of getting a warning and that could contribute to a ban.

You have a chance here to stop things going to that stage... provide receipts for your numbers and / or apologize to anyone you insulted or even indirectly called names (Clown etc).

We try to stay away from bans etc, we are adults here.... show your maturity and extend the olive branch.

 

[Heisenberg007]

It doesn't make sense to analyze these numbers because Series X (not S) and specially PS5 are heavily supply constrained, but Xbox is selling better than I expected.

The gap is even bigger than last gen, and that's despite PS5's severe shortage (which is about to go away to a large extent in the next few months).

 

[ParaSeoul]

The takes in this thread are entertaining, to say the least. It's gonna be a very long generation for some of you

 

[Yurinka]

The gap is even bigger than last gen, and that's despite PS5's severe shortage (which is about to go away to a large extent in the next few months).

No, regarding the amount of next gen consoles sold, PS is almost x1.6 while the previous gen was above x2 according to MS. The difference is smaller now, but as you mention due to PS5 being very supply constrained.

 

[Yurinka]

I think so, yes. Other analysts have the number quite a bit higher. And before you try for another desperate gotcha, I'm not talking about VGChartz

Who are these 'other analysts'? If they exist, please can you provide a link to their estimates?

Many people thought the same because of VGChartz and their inflated numbers.

Almost every single time we got oficial numbers, almost always since generations ago the VGChartz estimates (fan guesses I'd say) for PS almost always have been lower than the real Sony numbers and in the case of MS higher than the MS numbers.

But at least in many cases after oficial numbers get released VGChartz modified their numbers to include the real ones or at least very similar ones to the official ones.

 

[Deleted member 13]

Just a friendly reminder if you think you are right please explain why and link to sources.
- I'm right you are wrong is not a valid argument to you're point.
I am enjoying reading everyone's thoughts and opinions.

Yes. This thread is getting annoying. Put up or shut up -- or it gets closed.

 

[IntentionalPun]

God why do some of you care so damn much about your chosen plastic winning some race?

It's really kinda... I don't know.. how do I be nice about this?

 

[DynamiteCop]

@DynamiteCop You are at risk of getting a warning and that could contribute to a ban.

You have a chance here to stop things going to that stage... provide receipts for your numbers and / or apologize to anyone you insulted or even indirectly called names (Clown etc).

We try to stay away from bans etc, we are adults here.... show your maturity and extend the olive branch.

You might as well just do it at this point cuz this place is becoming Nazi Germany and you have like five people registered here. Good luck.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Honestly feel like Starfield is going to be a big test of XBox marketability this gen.

Series consoles are easy to get, so honestly not THAT supply constrained. Series S isn't supply constrained AT ALL and Series X is basically available online indefinitely. MS just doesn't have enough stock to ship to retailers many units, but has enough to essentially feed the online stores of amazon, Target, and others.

It's just not as popular of a platform, by a wide margin. If this brings you some joy as though your team won and you feel like celebrating and "neener-neener-ing" you need to grow up though. (and if this hurts you and you feel the need to spin it, same thing)