The only thing that bothers me with this things is the huge price difference they offer to pc players. The game is like 70 on Playstation but is 40 on Steam on my country (50 in others) thats like a 40% sale on release.
Another PC port that'll flop? Final Fantasy 16 debuts on Steam with 1470 player count
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For comparison, Ghost of Tsushima was a 4 years old port and they both target Asian markets so something similar would be expected? FF16 is only 1 year old and it's not cross-gen so the target audience should be bigger.
GOT is at 77,154
FF16 is at 15,423
FF16 might go to 30k+ this weekend (it's a long game) but it's still a big drop
GOT is at 77,154
FF16 is at 15,423
FF16 might go to 30k+ this weekend (it's a long game) but it's still a big drop
My comment has nothing to do with Steam or Square.
- ''It was all about Square and the list wars for the detractors not the actual game.''
But the people that attacked the game for being PS5 exclusive and selling ''only'' 3 million in one week. Let's keep the same energy and standards.
For comparison, Ghost of Tsushima was a 4 years old port and they both target Asian markets so something similar would be expected? FF16 is only 1 year old and it's not cross-gen so the target audience should be bigger.
GOT is at 77,154
FF16 is at 15,423
FF16 might go to 30k+ this weekend (it's a long game) but it's still a big drop
The same people defending these numbers were the same people saying this should be on PC after it sold 3 million in a week.
EDIT - it sold 3 million in 4 days on the PS5.
Food for thought
According to Steamspy, which used to be capable of giving more precise data but is not able to anymore, the following is the number of owners of each title on Steam:
Please note that this only includes Steam and not Epic purchases or in the case of FFXIV and FFXI, external launchers.
Final Fantasy - 500,000 - 1,000,000
Final Fantasy II - 200,000 - 500,000
Final Fantasy III - 200,000 - 500,000
Final Fantasy III (3D) - 500,000 - 1,000,000
Final Fantasy IV - 100,000 - 200,000
Final Fantasy IV (3D) - 200,000 - 500,000
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years - 50,000 - 100,000
Final Fantasy V - 200,000 - 500,000
Final Fantasy VI - 200,000 - 500,000
Final Fantasy VII - 1,000,000 - 2,000,000
Final Fantasy VII Remake - 500,000 - 1,000,000
Final Fantasy VIII - 500,000 - 1,000,000
Final Fantasy VIII Remastered - 500,000 - 1,000,000
Final Fantasy IX - 500,000 - 1,000,000
Final Fantasy X/X-2 - 500,000 - 1,000,000
Final Fantasy XI - 0 - 20,000
Final Fantasy XII - 1,000,000 - 2,000,000
Final Fantasy XIII - 1,000,000 - 2,000,000
Final Fantasy XIII-2 - 200,000 - 500,000
Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - 200,000 - 500,000
Final Fantasy XIV - 2,000,000 - 5,000,000
Final Fantasy XV - 1,000,000 - 2,000,000
Final Fantasy Type-0 - 200,000 - 500,000
World of Final Fantasy - 100,000 - 200,000
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII - 200,000 - 500,000
Final Fantasy Dissidia NT - 500,000 - 1,000,000
Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin - 100,000 - 200,000
According to Steamspy, which used to be capable of giving more precise data but is not able to anymore, the following is the number of owners of each title on Steam:
Please note that this only includes Steam and not Epic purchases or in the case of FFXIV and FFXI, external launchers.
Final Fantasy - 500,000 - 1,000,000
Final Fantasy II - 200,000 - 500,000
Final Fantasy III - 200,000 - 500,000
Final Fantasy III (3D) - 500,000 - 1,000,000
Final Fantasy IV - 100,000 - 200,000
Final Fantasy IV (3D) - 200,000 - 500,000
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years - 50,000 - 100,000
Final Fantasy V - 200,000 - 500,000
Final Fantasy VI - 200,000 - 500,000
Final Fantasy VII - 1,000,000 - 2,000,000
Final Fantasy VII Remake - 500,000 - 1,000,000
Final Fantasy VIII - 500,000 - 1,000,000
Final Fantasy VIII Remastered - 500,000 - 1,000,000
Final Fantasy IX - 500,000 - 1,000,000
Final Fantasy X/X-2 - 500,000 - 1,000,000
Final Fantasy XI - 0 - 20,000
Final Fantasy XII - 1,000,000 - 2,000,000
Final Fantasy XIII - 1,000,000 - 2,000,000
Final Fantasy XIII-2 - 200,000 - 500,000
Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - 200,000 - 500,000
Final Fantasy XIV - 2,000,000 - 5,000,000
Final Fantasy XV - 1,000,000 - 2,000,000
Final Fantasy Type-0 - 200,000 - 500,000
World of Final Fantasy - 100,000 - 200,000
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII - 200,000 - 500,000
Final Fantasy Dissidia NT - 500,000 - 1,000,000
Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin - 100,000 - 200,000
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Problem is that FF is trying to cater to everyone. And it's just not a good thing. Both Yakuza and Persona are turn based and have found moderate success. FF just swings from one extreme to the other.
I don't have a history with FF. I have only played FF16, FF7 Remake and FF7 Rebirth. I thoroughly enjoyed all three. But I preferred 16 because of the similarity to Game of Thrones in the story.
The issue with FF16 is that it simply isn’t an RPG.
It’s more GOW and DMC.
That’s the issue.
Totoki pressuring PlayStation to make sure he gets his end of year bonuses
CCU =/= Sales Figures. Every single time a game drops on Steam people always go up to bat about how terrible it seems on paper even though it's the only platform that showcases CCU data front & center for games.
Yeah Steamspy was really the best platform for getting these figures, but the privacy settings change on steam (which is a good change mind you) basically ruined it.
At the end of the day, clearly the series has done well at PC because otherwise they wouldn't have ported the entire franchise over. It continues to be the only platform where you can go from start to finish on the mainline series.
Sales estimations with Steams CCUs are nonsensical, particularly for SP games. Particularly for full priced late ports.
And even less if you don't wait until the daily peak and only take the one from a few hours after launch.
Got it. Well, I guess that sucks for those with a history in the franchise. I am new, so I didn't know any better.
Who cares? It's on PC and that's that matters! The game will play at its finest forever there. As do 99.9 percent of all games released on PC
2 days until the next CCU thread for god of war Ragnarok. And until dawn after that.
Let's see if Sony surprises us with a new port announcement there like they did with spiderman and last of us. A couple of fanboys may whine but it won't matter.
You and the others cared when it ONLY sold 3 million in 4 days on the PS5.
Oh it needs to be on PC so we can bump up those pathetic numbers on PS5.
It sure has…..
You had people here crying that this game should be on PC because it ONLY sold 3 million in 4 days on PS5.
15K concurrent on Steam does even get close to translating to 3 million sales.
Why do you care about sales that much? Do you own stock in Square or get commissions for every copy sold?
Just enjoy games!
I think they're moreso upset at anyone that argued the 3 million sales numbers were too low whilst being fine with typical steam sale numbers. I don't know if that, specifically, applies to something you've said about its sales on Playstation. I know I haven't commented on its Playstation sales as I don't care
We know the reason deep down. Since today FFXVI can't be weaponized anymore.
I don't like PS2 and up FF tbh. Wish square used all those man-hours to develop a full scale VI remake, now that would be something.
And yet, here you are, weaponizing it, along with Sony first party games.
... a game you never even cared about. Of course.
