[Circana] June 2023 NPD, PS5 Top selling in both Unit and Dollar sales, Highest hardware sales since 2010, Diablo IV #1, FF XVI #2, SF 6 #3

[Nhomnhom]

Sales for FF16 are strong if not modest. It’s not a bomb but it’s also not a runaway success. I agree with the sales and fanbase downtrend game over game. At this point I’m also expecting Ff7r part 2 to do better.

Anyone who claimed it would do Ragnarok sales is way off. It won’t and nor does it deserve it.

Yo fuck that game. Half baked trash that looks and runs like poop. Should’ve gotten a 60% meta honestly

Who claimed FFXVI would do Ragnarok numbers? That's an absurd angle to go after the game by setting it up with completely unrealistic expectations.

I don't see why it wouldn't deserve Ragnarok numbers anyway, it's a great game and more remarkable than Ragnarok.

 

[Gediminas]

It only shows otherwise in your tiny pea brain.

The guy is fucking crazy.

Children, don't use drugs, or you end up as crazymaz..

 

[Plextorage]

PS4 - XB1 = 1.8 million
PS5 - XBS = 3.6 milion

I think he compared the console from the same family, as he said

This is a clear shift in console preference in the US market, while XBS currently sells XB1 level and PS5 doing far better than PS4

 

[Swolf712]

But we have actual sales data that shows the opposite...
Plus the Square Enix financials hints they didn't even break even with FFXVI and it hurts a lot their profits.
Somethings is cleary off bettween what PR Square said and the results they shows.

What data shows the opposite, my guy? Every official source has said the sales have been good. Square is also not afraid to say when sales of a game have disappointed them.

 

[Muddasar]

But we have actual sales data that shows the opposite...
Plus the Square Enix financials hints they didn't even break even with FFXVI and it hurts a lot their profits.
Somethings is cleary off bettween what PR Square said and the results they shows.

After the disasters SE have churned out this last year I don’t think even Zelda TOTK would have helped them break even.

Let alone FF16.

 

[Welfare]

You need to qualify your posts with the word standalone. Only the standalone Series X model was hard to find. The Forza bundle was plentiful. You've been fucking schooled so hard before but the basic economics of it is that XSX was demand constrained, not supply constrained.

Basic economics shows that the model that was hard to find was the one in demand lmfao

Standalone X always sold more than the Forza bundle when in stock. Sales didn't merely transfer from the bundle to the standalone.

None of you know a thing about economics or supply/demand.

 

[Danja]

But we have actual sales data that shows the opposite...
Plus the Square Enix financials hints they didn't even break even with FFXVI and it hurts a lot their profits.
Somethings is cleary off bettween what PR Square said and the results they shows.

Final Fantasy 16 would have had to sell 10 million at least in a month at full price to make a difference in the financials.

There are MANY in denial on this forum about this game's performance and future sales. As it won't have a long tail. But your determination to also make it seem like a colossal failure is so so weird lmao.

The game is a success. It has recouped it's budget and Marketing... Expecting the game to recoup every other games loss for the years is... High key delusional

 

[Cool hand luke]

Basic economics shows that the model that was hard to find was the one in demand lmfao

Standalone X always sold more than the Forza bundle when in stock. Sales didn't merely transfer from the bundle to the standalone.

None of you know a thing about economics or supply/demand.

You would flunk business 101.

 

[Johnic]

How come PS5 bundles sold out back then? If demand is high enough, the product sells, regardless of price.

Speaking of economics, companies will often use bundles to sell products at a higher price because demand allows them to do it.

At this point, you're just embarrassing. Nothing against you personally but you bending over backwards to explain something that's easily explained using Occam's Razor, is getting a bit stale.

 

[Darth Vader]

Basic economics shows that the model that was hard to find was the one in demand lmfao

Standalone X always sold more than the Forza bundle when in stock. Sales didn't merely transfer from the bundle to the standalone.

None of you know a thing about economics or supply/demand.

Of course not, please enlighten us.

How Does the Law of Supply and Demand Affect Prices?

Learn how the law of supply and demand affects prices, whether supply remains the same and demand increases or vice-versa, plus the exceptions to the rule.

www.investopedia.com

"If there is a decrease in supply of goods and services while demand remains the same, prices tend to rise to a higher equilibrium price and a lower quantity of goods and services."

Please do publish your study as to why the above is false, maybe you'll win a nobel.

 

[ethomaz]

Basic economics shows that the model that was hard to find was the one in demand lmfao

Standalone X always sold more than the Forza bundle when in stock. Sales didn't merely transfer from the bundle to the standalone.

None of you know a thing about economics or supply/demand.

I have no ideia where you “learn” that but…

If there is the demand even with supply issues consumer trend to buy even expensive models paying more than the MSRP price.

 

[ethomaz]

It got leaked all the sales data in InstallBase for 2022.
Before that we missed October, November and December I believe.

	PS5	XBS
Jan	369k	307k
Fev	128k	261k
Mar	282k	489k
Apr	234k	267k
May	119k	177k
Jun	277k	260k
Jul	301k	247k
Aug	341k	251k
Sep	494k	288k
Oct	456k	261k
Nov	1328k	730k
Dec	1331k	942k
TOTAL	5660k	4480k

2022 Yearly sales (NPD)

	2022	LTD
NSW	5.830.000	39.410.000
PS5	5.660.000	11.900.000
XBS	4.480.000	9.700.000
PS4	50.000	34.760.000
TOTAL	16.020.000	-

 

[ethomaz]

With these data Astral_lion02@InstallBase made a estimated using Mat %.

PS5 Monthly Sales (NPD)

	2022	2023
Jan	369k	0,5M
Fev	128k	0,5M
Mar	282k	0,6M
Apr	234k	0,4M
May	119k	0,3M
Jun	277k	0,4M
YTD	1409k	2,7M

 

[ethomaz]

While that in US.

 

[Welfare]

You would flunk business 101.

Yeah because I kept saying for months that if the standalone X were made more available than the bundle it would sell more and it was dumb for Microsoft to try selling a crap $559 bundle just because Sony did it with a new game.

And guess what happened since then. The most supplied and sold model is the standalone X! Amazon is only selling that X in meaningful numbers, Walmart, Target, and GameStop have the standalone selling better, and Best Buy right now is showing the Diablo over the standalone, but it also has the S doing better than either, so something is up there.

I'd be your teacher in Business 101 lmao you're not good at this. Funny how when I say things, reality backs me up.

Only on this forum is it hard to comprehend what was actually in demand and what wasn't.

 

[Swift_Star]

While that in US.

Taylor’s Speak Now getting a discount at target and being charged full price in Brazil sucks

 

[Welfare]

I have no ideia where you “learn” that but…

If there is the demand even with supply issues consumer trend to buy even expensive models paying more than the MSRP price.

Get out of the hypothetical and snap back to reality. There is plenty of evidence that shows that the standalone $499 X wouldn't just sell what the Forza bundle did and add nothing on top of that, but instead sold far more than the Forza bundle when made available.

We know it sold out for months before June and it would always place higher and sell more than the bundle than when the bundle was all by itself.

That's what actually happened. Not whatever you're going on about.

If the Forza bundle had 10K available, it only sold 5K. If the standalone X had 10K, it sold all 10K.

 

[ethomaz]

Get out of the hypothetical and snap back to reality. There is plenty of evidence that shows that the standalone $499 X wouldn't just sell what the Forza bundle did and add nothing on top of that, but instead sold far more than the Forza bundle when made available.

We know it sold out for months before June and it would always place higher and sell more than the bundle than when the bundle was all by itself.

That's what actually happened. Not whatever you're going on about.

If the Forza bundle had 10K available, it only sold 5K. If the standalone X had 10K, it sold all 10K.

So we agree in your example that there is demand for 15k Series X but no 20k Series X?

 

[Cool hand luke]

Yeah because I kept saying for months that if the standalone X were made more available than the bundle it would sell more and it was dumb for Microsoft to try selling a crap $559 bundle just because Sony did it with a new game.

And guess what happened since then. The most supplied and sold model is the standalone X! Amazon is only selling that X in meaningful numbers, Walmart, Target, and GameStop have the standalone selling better, and Best Buy right now is showing the Diablo over the standalone, but it also has the S doing better than either, so something is up there.

I'd be your teacher in Business 101 lmao you're not good at this. Funny how when I say things, reality backs me up.

Only on this forum is it hard to comprehend what was actually in demand and what wasn't.

You got schooled. I don't know how you can even show your face here after what I did to you.

People on this page in this thread are spelling it out for you because you still don't get it.

If a good is in demand, people will pay more to purchase it. That didn't happen with the XSX.

Maybe the wretched vermin on installbase will believe you. Have you tried having a conversation there?

 

[Gods&Monsters]

It got leaked all the sales data in InstallBase for 2022.
Before that we missed October, November and December I believe.

	PS5	XBS
Jan	369k	307k
Fev	128k	261k
Mar	282k	489k
Apr	234k	267k
May	119k	177k
Jun	277k	260k
Jul	301k	247k
Aug	341k	251k
Sep	494k	288k
Oct	456k	261k
Nov	1328k	730k
Dec	1331k	942k
TOTAL	5660k	4480k

2022 Yearly sales (NPD)

	2022	LTD
NSW	5.830.000	39.410.000
PS5	5.660.000	11.900.000
XBS	4.480.000	9.700.000
PS4	50.000	34.760.000
TOTAL	16.020.000	-

PS5 and Xbox were actually kind of close in 2022 but then in 2023 we all know Xbox was way down. The difference must be huge now.