[Circana] May 2024: 1# Ghost of Tsushima, 2# Paper Mario TYD, 3# Helldivers 2, #8 Shadow of Erdtree; PS5 #1, 2#NSW , 3# XSX
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Let me help you.
2020 - PS5 launch
2021
2022
2023 - Peak
2024 - You are here
You got a few ways of looking at the above.
1. You take each year as a full year, regardless of how long a product was in that year. Pick this, and Year 1 for PS5 was 2020, 2023 is Year 4, and 2024 is Year 5.
2. You start Year 1 at whatever year the product was available for most or all of the year. Pick this, and Year 1 for PS5 was 2021, 2023 is Year 3, and 2024 is Year 4. 2020 would just be "launch year" or "launch holiday".
3. You use fiscal year instead of calendar year, which would mean Year 1 for PS5 ended March 31, 2021.
If someone asked Mat to share the numbers for the PS5's 3rd year, he wouldn't share the November of prior year - October of current year 12 month total. He'd pick a full year of either 2022 (Jan-Dec) or 2023 (Jan-Dec).
Also, if you want to look at it by months passed only, there's no Year 0 for a product. Once 36 months has passed, month 37 and you're in Year 4 of the product's lifecycle.
2020 - PS5 launch
2021
2022
2023 - Peak
2024 - You are here
You got a few ways of looking at the above.
1. You take each year as a full year, regardless of how long a product was in that year. Pick this, and Year 1 for PS5 was 2020, 2023 is Year 4, and 2024 is Year 5.
2. You start Year 1 at whatever year the product was available for most or all of the year. Pick this, and Year 1 for PS5 was 2021, 2023 is Year 3, and 2024 is Year 4. 2020 would just be "launch year" or "launch holiday".
3. You use fiscal year instead of calendar year, which would mean Year 1 for PS5 ended March 31, 2021.
If someone asked Mat to share the numbers for the PS5's 3rd year, he wouldn't share the November of prior year - October of current year 12 month total. He'd pick a full year of either 2022 (Jan-Dec) or 2023 (Jan-Dec).
Also, if you want to look at it by months passed only, there's no Year 0 for a product. Once 36 months has passed, month 37 and you're in Year 4 of the product's lifecycle.
Ummm what? I was not talking about that. I was saying how long it’s been since launch.
You see, I knew people were confused.
Right. Sony uses their fiscal year when a new year for the company begin and ends. Which some go by too. But calendar year can used too. Which is used more often than not.
3 years 8 months. I don’t get the issue with this.
Anyway. Last time I’m bringing this up. It’s always the same thing. I’ve seen this same argument happen on resetera and other places. It’s weird.
3 years 8 months. I don’t get the issue with this.
Anyway. Last time I’m bringing this up. It’s always the same thing. I’ve seen this same argument happen on resetera and other places. It’s weird.
This 100%. They always say PS exclusives need to be on PC Day 1 if they don't break all-time records but Xbox keeps releasing massive flops that don't even chart at all and it's complete silence.
Hellblade was number 1 when it was PS4-exclusive. Imagine how they would react if it was number 37? The internet would explode and Sony would never be allowed to have an exclusive ever again.
This is how you know there's a massive double standard in the industry and all these "journalists" are just pushing Xbox talking points.
He isn't correct though. He stated that the PS5 peaked in its 2nd year. Any way you slice it it's wrong
so GoT pc selling 150k-300k is a success but ff16 and ff7 rebirth selling several million is a flop? I see, the media FUD has gotten to you 
PC/Xbox are allowed to have incredibly low standards but ps5 needs to carry.What nonsense? These are physical numbers only for Paper Mario. Paper Mario sold 130k physical in Japan during May, and physical dominates there. So it probably sold around 100k physical in the US since there’s a bit larger switch install base and digital splits are much higher here.
I was being generous by saying 250k for GoT PC. Since Mat said it only did slightly better than Paper Mario physical only, it’s probably closer to 150k. Worldwide puts it at 400k-500k MAX, which is an objective flop.
Stop lying to yourselves, it’ll take several years to match what it sold on PS4 in the first 3 days, if that’s what you consider a success then you’re a victim of FUD. No other way around it
Further proof that GoT was an objective FLOP, since some people here have piss poor standards and understanding of the market.
Sea of Thieves was ported to PS5 and became the 19th best selling game of the year, with only 4 days to chart and way more competition during its launch window. GoT gets ported to PC in an empty month with two weeks to chart and is nowhere to be found. It couldn’t even outsell Skull and Bones which was another huge flop. SoT is also much older and nowhere near as good as GoT but still did way better on a much smaller install base than PC. The standards for the PC market are in the gutter
Sea of Thieves was ported to PS5 and became the 19th best selling game of the year, with only 4 days to chart and way more competition during its launch window. GoT gets ported to PC in an empty month with two weeks to chart and is nowhere to be found. It couldn’t even outsell Skull and Bones which was another huge flop. SoT is also much older and nowhere near as good as GoT but still did way better on a much smaller install base than PC. The standards for the PC market are in the gutter
Guys,
Love your passion, but lets continue to keep things civil <3
Love your passion, but lets continue to keep things civil <3
What nonsense? These are physical numbers only for Paper Mario. Paper Mario sold 130k physical in Japan during May, and physical dominates there. So it probably sold around 100k physical in the US since there’s a bit larger switch install base and digital splits are much higher here.
I was being generous by saying 250k for GoT PC. Since Mat said it only did slightly better than Paper Mario physical only, it’s probably closer to 150k. Worldwide puts it at 400k-500k MAX, which is an objective flop.
Stop lying to yourselves, it’ll take several years to match what it sold on PS4 in the first 3 days, if that’s what you consider a success then you’re a victim of FUD. No other way around it.
Nowhere did I say it is a success or not.
I have repeatedly said PC ports sell peanuts.
Still you can’t gauge total sales on US figures alone.
Mat only said slightly better in the US than Paper Mario. These sales figures are for May 2024 till June 1 2024. GoT was released on May 16.
2 weeks earlier.
With an all time CCU of 77,000 it has sold far more than 400K-500K max.
That is 2 weeks on the PC market.
You can't, I can. I'm built different and my estimates are always on point.
Um.. and Paper Mario came out a WEEK AFTER, so wth is your point??
You just said you can't gauge total sales and then you try to gauge total sales?
God of War had a 74k peak and Sony earnings showed it sold 970k in its first 4 months . There's no way this one sold more than 500k in just the first 2 weeks 
(GoW was also cheaper). PC ports have been selling less and less over the years, not to mention the game isn't purchasable in 177 countries and has a psn requirement. Nothing you're saying makes any sense
You can't, I can. I'm built different and my estimates are always on point.
Um.. and Paper Mario came out a WEEK AFTER, so wth is your point??
You just said you can't gauge total sales and then you try to gauge total sales?
Nothing you're saying makes any sense
Doesn’t make sense to you for obvious reasons.
Everything I said is backed up with evidence, you've provided nothing
Again with the extremelly low bar to call PC ports a success. We'll find out if they were a succes or not come PS6.
Maybe Sony is rigth and exclusives have no value to PlayStation, maybe all of this was a big mistake that only helped Valve and Nvidia and wasn't worth it for a few extra million sales.
Maybe Sony is rigth and exclusives have no value to PlayStation, maybe all of this was a big mistake that only helped Valve and Nvidia and wasn't worth it for a few extra million sales.
That was at the beginning of this year.
gamerant.com
Xbox Expects Hardware Sales to Decline
After underperforming in the console market during the holiday season, Xbox states that it expects hardware sales to trend downward.
gamerant.com
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The circus continues. The forum does need better quality posters. The irony.
The sort of clean up required goes beyond the "rules". Purges are never pretty. Curation is part of every body politic that has ever existed or has ever been created, from the biggest of things, like nations, to the smallest of things, like say, cleaning rice. It's however an indispensable exercise - whether masked under veils or otherwise. Not to be confused with policing activity aka moderation activity. It's not a democratic process, few opinions matter.
The "doomer-league" is slipping on low hanging fruits and talking points, specially vs low grade "exalted" idiots. Won't be providing them, will keep watching from afar the "struggle". An infusion of fresh perspective on logical fallacies being employed by the corporate slaves is sorely needed. It's as if IQs between combatants reach their limit and equalize. A few corporate slaves are naturally running wild with long lasting toilet busting dumps seeking exhaustion and using repetition as the strategy.
At least the weeb syndicate in under control, with most self-exiled, the moderate and well behaved still hanging about while the crazy barely having energy to spout idiocy -- although always a hand away, ready to dump toilet busters when defending the weeaboo creed.
Just a hint:
The myth of unit sales growth grand scheme.
Correlation between launch aligned growth for PS5 in the U.S vs. launch aligned decline of Series consoles in the U.S. The exercise of a consumer crossing the street.
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/population/cb12-255.html
https://www.census.gov/popclock/
Not accounting non-citizens. In the several tenths of millions least.
The sort of clean up required goes beyond the "rules". Purges are never pretty. Curation is part of every body politic that has ever existed or has ever been created, from the biggest of things, like nations, to the smallest of things, like say, cleaning rice. It's however an indispensable exercise - whether masked under veils or otherwise. Not to be confused with policing activity aka moderation activity. It's not a democratic process, few opinions matter.
The "doomer-league" is slipping on low hanging fruits and talking points, specially vs low grade "exalted" idiots. Won't be providing them, will keep watching from afar the "struggle". An infusion of fresh perspective on logical fallacies being employed by the corporate slaves is sorely needed. It's as if IQs between combatants reach their limit and equalize. A few corporate slaves are naturally running wild with long lasting toilet busting dumps seeking exhaustion and using repetition as the strategy.
At least the weeb syndicate in under control, with most self-exiled, the moderate and well behaved still hanging about while the crazy barely having energy to spout idiocy -- although always a hand away, ready to dump toilet busters when defending the weeaboo creed.
Just a hint:
The myth of unit sales growth grand scheme.
Correlation between launch aligned growth for PS5 in the U.S vs. launch aligned decline of Series consoles in the U.S. The exercise of a consumer crossing the street.
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/population/cb12-255.html
https://www.census.gov/popclock/
Not accounting non-citizens. In the several tenths of millions least.
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