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[On Demand]

Xbox getting leftovers and scraps as usual.

Don’t know why people are bothered by this. We all know how this will turn out. This is not the first time MS has tried to get close with Square Enix.

 

[Nhomnhom]

Atlus is a Sega company now.
Yakuza is a Sega IP.
You're not making any sense.
Stop spreading FUD.

Sure. All is fine, Sony doesn't need to do anything as long as they call their console PlayStation you guys will justify anything including all this passive behavior of just conceding the traditional game market to fucking MS of all companies.

 

[Deleted member 223]

How is this 7 pages long already?

It's scraps for some financial return. Square is not owned by Sony and shouldn't be acquired by Sony. Business deals happen all the time and Square, being the current new hobo of Japan, just above hobo master Konami is open for business. They need the cash, and MS/Xbox is desperate not to lose support. If checks clear, nothing wrong with that - it's business. Considering how much Square was able to squeeze out of MS for Tomb Raider, I'm sure they know the "partner's" situation very well.

 

[Swift_Star]

How is this 7 page slong already?

Usual doom and gloom without any evidence whatsoever.

 

[On Demand]

Sure. All is fine, Sony doesn't need to do anything as long as they call their console PlayStation you guys will justify anything including all this passive behavior of just conceding the traditional game market to fucking MS of all companies.

Just to calm your doom and gloom down....

Sony has exclusive contracts with Square Enix that prevents games from going to Xbox. FF7 remake is one of those games.

It’s why Phil Spencer was crying like a bitch during the Activision case about Sony hurting them from doing well in Japan.

Square Enix will not end up like Sega. Which is not really a good comparison anyway since Altus can’t control the decisions their owner makes.

 

[Nhomnhom]

Sony has exclusive contracts with Square Enix that prevents games from going to Xbox. FF7 remake is one of those games.

I doubt it.

It’s why Phil Spencer was crying like a bitch during the Activision case about Sony hurting them from doing well in Japan.

Can't you read between the lines? That is just them setting up the next acquisition. Likely Sega, Capcom or SE, if not all of them.

 

[On Demand]

The president said “whenever possible” for a reason.

 

[FatKaz]

How is this 7 page slong already?

People melting down over an independent publisher releasing games(which they've been already doing for years) on xbox.

 

[On Demand]

I doubt it.

It’s already been confirmed.

 

[ethomaz]

Edit - He already said it.

Not that the game is bad, that they want to play it bad. I guess I didn't use the right word. FFXIV is great.

The expression is correct…
When you say “I want something so badly” mean that you really want a lot that thing.

 

[Eternal_Wings]

God what human trash is moving here:

“Lol I'd love for MS to buy SE just to see the meltdowns from the weebs who think Square enix actually makes anything worthwhile in 2023.”

Disgusting goofballs lurking here.

 

[Deleted member 223]

These fools will never learn

• Email proves Microsoft's Activision bid is designed to eliminate PlayStation​

• Microsoft acquired Obsidian, Inxile, Ninja Theory, Double Fine Productions & Compulsion Games​

• Microsoft tried to acquire Square Enix​

• Microsoft tried to acquire Sega​

• Microsoft acquired ZeniMax for 7.5 billion ​

• Microsoft acquired Activision/Blizzard for 68 billion​

Stop Burying your head in the Sand and open your eyes

That does need a resounding answer. Bungie acquisition is only a fraction of what a complete answer looks like.

If Jimmy boy and the accountant haven't gotten the message yet with regards to the real angle of attack then they deserve to fail for gross incompetence. We won't be able to conclusively pass final judgement till several years, perhaps a decade from now. Needless to say their PC push, and the disproportionate allocation of resources to the GAAS push, as opposed to a balanced or advantage existing strengths approach doesn't entrust "faith" in the "plan". Looks like amateur hour.

Has nothing to do with this however. MS shopping for scraps in Japan while Sony bags the big hitters day one is not a fair fight to say the least and does nothing to change the status quo. This has been the case for years now, and not new.

Obviously, if Sony allows successful differentiation by Xbox in the shooter/WPRG market for the next generation (with this generation serving as the set-up/mind-share/investment gen) then slowly but surely market share will recede for PlayStation in the UK/CAN/U.S.A and those deals with Square and other third party "partners" become exponentially prohibitive and ineffectual.

It's a well thought trap. The problem for Microsoft is that they are not great managers and their execution in real life diverges from the sound sense that their plans look like on paper. Happens time and again. But just cause that's a pattern of behavior does not mean you can take any of it lightly, and downplay the threat. Patterns get broken.

Hence the imperative and no choice alternative but to give a sound response to the above. To gamble on "what if's" by doing little is a fools game. Nothing is left to chance in big business.

 

[Systemshock2023]

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History seems to be repeating. Same platforms involved,same franchise. Something fundamentally wrong with these fanboys.

 

[Nhomnhom]

That does need a resounding answer. Bungie acquisition is only a fraction of what a complete answer looks like.

If Jimmy boy and the accountant haven't gotten the message yet from the real angle of attack then they deserve to fail for gross incompetence. We won't be able to conclusively pass final judgement till several years from now. Needless to say their PC push, and the disproportionate allocation of resources to the GAAS push, as opposed to a balanced approach (advantage existing strengths) doesn't entrust "faith" in the "plan". Looks like amateur hour.

Has nothing to do with this however. MS shopping for scraps in Japan while Sony bags the big hitters day one is not a fair fight to say the least and does nothing to change the status quo. This has been the case for years now, and not new.

How does Bungie acquisition answer anything? All their games are releasing on Xbox going forward. Bethesda, Activision and Blizzard game will all be skipping PlayStation going forward don't be fulled by CoD being the exception for now.

Port houses, GaaS, and support studios were most of Sony bought recently with the exception of Housemarque.

Even with how shitty Xbox is it still manages to sell close to 2:1, good luck in the future when that gap closes nextgen, Sony sure ain't going to be bailed out buy money hating exclusives when MS smells blood.

 

[ethomaz]

That does need a resounding answer. Bungie acquisition is only a fraction of what a complete answer looks like.

If Jimmy boy and the accountant haven't gotten the message yet with regards to the real angle of attack then they deserve to fail for gross incompetence. We won't be able to conclusively pass final judgement till several years, perhaps a decade from now. Needless to say their PC push, and the disproportionate allocation of resources to the GAAS push, as opposed to a balanced or advantage existing strengths approach doesn't entrust "faith" in the "plan". Looks like amateur hour.

Has nothing to do with this however. MS shopping for scraps in Japan while Sony bags the big hitters day one is not a fair fight to say the least and does nothing to change the status quo. This has been the case for years now, and not new.

Obviously, if Sony allows successful differentiation by Xbox in the shooter/WPRG market for the next generation (with this generation serving as the set-up/mind-share/investment gen) then slowly but surely market share will recede for PlayStation in the UK/CAN/U.S.A and those deals with Square and other third party "partners" become exponentially prohibitive and ineffectual.

Hence the imperative and no choice alternative but to give a sound response to the above. To gamble on "what if's" by doing little is a fools game. Nothing is left to chance in big business.

People keep downplaying Bungie…

But just some month of Bungie in the last firscal year boosted by over $200 million revenue in PC alone… add the revenue on consoles and you have maybe something way over $500 million… not will be a surprise if in a year they do over $1 billion.

I have a question how much money all these acquisitions made to MS all these years combined?

That is a key difference between Sony and MS strategy… Sony goes for delivery… MS for PR headlines.

Edit - Actually Bungie saved Sony PC strategy because their own titles sold like shit there.

 

[Swift_Star]

It’s more likely this does more damage do square enix than to Sony lol but I doubt anything will change.
Whenever possible means they’ll port the games when ms pays them for it.

 

[Deleted member 223]

How does Bungie acquisition answer anything? All their games are releasing on Xbox going forward. Bethesda, Activision and Blizzard game will all be skipping PlayStation going forward don't be fulled by CoD being the exception for now.

Port houses, GaaS, and support studios were most of Sony bought recently with the exception of Housemarque.

Even with how shitty Xbox is it still manages to sell close to 2:1, good luck in the future when that gap closes nextgen, Sony sure ain't going to be bailed out buy money hating exclusives when MS smells blood.

Sony won't be able to moneyhat exclusives with the same ease if the market share pendulum shrinks to say 60-40 or 55-45. We saw that with the X360/PS3 gen. Third Party "Partners" only make decisions based on $$$$$$$$. Hence why Sony had to go deep into its own bench during the PS3 era. Money talks.

Hence the answer to the deprivation of third party partners serving the shooter/wrpg western audiences is to double down on existing strengths and pay in kind to the competition with a direct (as opposed to indirect) response on the perceived weaknesses that the "rival/enemy" is targeting. That is, the shooter/WRPG market must be protected at all cost and fought for. It's the biggest most profitable segment of the Western market. No ifs or buts, market reality and money don't care about feelings or ideologies. Since time is a premium, fools errands like buying Square as an indirect response should be out of the equation.

I do agree that Bungie as fully a third party developer is not an arrangement that should continue past the COD deal expiry date. Hence why Marathon being fully multiplat imo, makes no sense. Nobody knows what kind of deal they have with Bungie so I can't say for sure but I wouldn't be making that same call. I wouldn't agree to buy them if I didn't have 100% control - thus it beats me to think Sony would actually agree to anything of that sort. That rarely if ever happens. I don't think it's true either.... I'm of the belief Sony has full control and it's more a gentleman agreement (risk of breaking it potentially causing key Bungie leadership talent flight - hence the soft touch, for now).

 

[Nhomnhom]

Sony won't be able to moneyhat exclusives with the same ease if the market share pendulum shrinks to say 60-40 or 55-45. We saw that with the X360 gen. Third Party "Partners" only make decisions based on $$$$$$$$. Hence why Sony had to go deep into its own bench.

Hence the answer to the deprivation of third party parners is to double down on strenghs and pay in kind to the competition with a direct (as opposed to indirect) response. That is, the shooter/WRPG market must be protected at all cost and fought for. It's the biggest most profitable segment of the Western market. No ifs or buts, market reality and money don't care about feelings or ideologies.

They are doubling down on GaaS and PC.

There are very few shooter/WRPG target even left at this point.

 

[Deleted member 223]

They are doubling down on GaaS and PC.

There are very few shooter/WRPG target even left at this point.

The few that are have to be grabbed - CDPR, Larian, FromSoftware, Bohemia Interactive with perhaps Ubisoft/Warner Gaming as well. No two ways to go about it. Obviously Sony is hoping some of their shooter GAAS turn out to be hits thus lessening the need to go and do a big and messy third party pub acquisition but we won't know if those GAAS will be that successful till a couple years from now, some for several years from now. Meanwhile Microsoft acquired IP's are real, with established audiences in the now and known - hence the "shortcut" aspect. Luxury of response is NOT afforded to "several years" from now. Sony's got a couple key years at most to both figure it all out and act within that same time frame. The PS6 set up is the ultimate battleground - the 0/0 reset sort of speak. Mind you library attachment is a helluva loyalty program but it doesn't go further than 50 mill units at the very best (effective 20-30m units). Can't run from war. Eventually you gotta stop running and face it straight on.

 

[Remember_Spinal]

People keep downplaying Bungie…

But just some month of Bungie in the last firscal year boosted by over $200 million revenue in PC alone… add the revenue on consoles and you have maybe something way over $500 million… not will be a surprise if in a year they do over $1 million.

I have a question how much money all these acquisitions made to MS all these years combined?

That is a key difference between Sony and MS strategy… Sony goes for delivery… MS for PR headlines.

Edit - Actually Bungie saved Sony PC strategy because their own titles sold like shit there.

Bungie is a way bigger deal than Obsidon, INxile, Ninja Theory, Doublefine, and Compulsion combined.

People are stacking what were indie game developers on kickstarter last gen to one of the biggest multiplayer-live service developers, with a staff of over 1000 people

If bungie aren’t making any single player campaign type shooters it serves SIE no purpose making their games exclusive. They exist for their expertise and to generate revenue.