Ftc to file antitrust lawsuit rumor against Microsoft. This getting deep!

[Remember_Spinal]

Anybody listen to spawn cast this weekend? The entire panel, including fake wannabe insiders Nate the hate were SEETHING that this deal might be blocked and that’s it’s all Sonys fault. Someone literally said “Man I wish Sony stop complaining would just let this deal go through.”

Lol they did it this morning? Thats weird

But yeah, Nate is the ultimate xbox fanboy. I clocked him last week talking about how he refuses to play ragnarok and that elden ring deserves to be GOTY. He made up some lame excuse how he doesnt have time because hes so busy playing pentiment lol

 

[Gediminas]

Anybody listen to spawn cast this weekend? The entire panel, including fake wannabe insiders Nate the hate were SEETHING that this deal might be blocked and that’s it’s all Sonys fault. Someone literally said “Man I wish Sony stop complaining would just let this deal go through.”

These idiot think if Sony stops, the deal would go through? How da fuck dumb you can be to think that? For sure it is Sony fault, not m$, for going anti-competitive buyout FTC, CMA and EU is own by sony after all

 

[Remember_Spinal]

Listening to spawncast now these people sound dumb as hell

These arguments that if “sony doesn’t leave microsoft alone microsoft is gonna buy the entire industry” is exactly why this is happening to them lol

Its like they can’t see the irony in this. They’re also are completely unaware that sony gets these good deals because they’re the market leaders. Microsoft can’t be spiteful buying GTA, CoD or Final Fantasy exclusivity when the majority of people don’t play those games on their platform.

 

[Dabaus]

Goes to show Xbox fanboys don’t have anything better to do than make podcasts complaining about Sony every weekend. Kind of gives them an advantage when it comes to shaping opinion. Most of the pro/ neutral PlayStation podcast guys like jez or king thrash have actual lives to they can podcast every weekend to damage control or set a narrative.

 

[Remember_Spinal]

The fact that playstation gets as much media scrutiny as it does and still sells the way it does is testament to it providing better gaming experiences. You can’t speak failure or success into existence.

 

[Deleted member 223]

It seems a lot of young PlayStation fans are starting to grasp, in surprising horror, the fact that the Xbox fanboys are uncompromising in their wish to see their platform succeed and become number one, dethroning what they perceive as the dictator of the industry (Sony). That's what decades plus of being on the losing side will cultivate. Once you start to see past all the narratives and BS which is what consumes the commentariat in the never ending back and forth that goes nowhere you begin to realize that the only thing that matters ultimately, is who sits at the top and benefits the most from sitting at the top (natural selfish human behavior - unavoidable and raw). Obviously those who sit at the bottom can appreaciate better what not being at the top feels like, and in that sense PlayStation fanboys are privileged bratts who do not understand the pain down below, nor the suffering, nor what the other side is willing to say or do to get to the top (the deceit, the lies etc). It thus should become self apparent that Sony fanboys, in a false sense of "compassion" for their "fellow gamer" should avoid making the mistake of biting the bait like a useful idiot and ultimately help the other side to switch places cause you'll be stupid to expect in kind the same treatment from other side once they get to the top again (see PS3 era). Everything else is for suckers. Clearly this intervention by Jim Ryan, sanctioned by those higher than him, was badly needed as they gave way too much room to Philly boy to poison the well midway past the PS4 era in the media space and elsewhere. Humans after all follow leadership. This drama is serving as an eye opener for lots of individuals who actually bought into or simply aspired being part of a utopia community aka the "coexist" of gaming. It's all a dirty business,, with billion dollar corporations behind it, and humans do not change and will never change from being tribalistic animals and all that it entails - even to the smallest of things, like a gaming hobby.

 

[Papacheeks]

I said this on Defining Duke podcast comment section:

"Fox should have never been able to be bought. And now that the industry is being consolidated, its been a red flag for Government regulatory bodies.

Under trump we had a bad time with companies specifically ISP providers able to buy large companies and now the ISP landscape is complete shit and will be for a long time. Unlike in UK who have highest speeds and lowest prices for Internet. At&T bought one of the largest ISP providers.
ANd we literally now only have 2 large providers who cover the US.

Thank god of Starlink. But even still its expensive to get setup.

This deal being scrutinized is good. No company should be able to buy a player as large as Activision/Blizzard, EA, Take2.
If Microsoft owns that amount of content, only a matter of time before they buy more or other companies start buying up the rest.
And lets say MS really doesn't want to impede where you get access to those titles?

But another company does if they buy lets say EA, or Take two? Thats what Regulators are really is fighting. Look at the current landscape of Entertainment with streaming services. No one even disney who owns all the content on their services are making money from streaming. They have over 200 Million subs, and just raised prices again, and still wont make profit until 2024 according to them? Netflix is the largest and most expensive and still not turning a profit?

So whats the deal?

I believe Sony as a entertainment company is the only one that has not built a movie/TV streaming service. And the reason why is theres no money in it. It's a growth sector market but not one that makes money in terms of raw profit. Which is why Sony sold streaming rights for Uncharted, Spider-Man: No way home, No Time To Die, to three different streaming services and made 3 billion dollars. They know they can make more money actual money from selling the streaming rights of their properties rather than lose shit tons of money getting into the streaming game.

So if they know this as a entertainment entity thats been around as long as most tv/film companies, then dont you think they know where game streaming/sub services are going?

They know they are added value, and if done correctly can bring in growth market, but to think that a streaming/subscription service for games should be the new way to distribute games, I think they know its not great for the industry in long term when sub numbers get to a certain saturation point. Which is why MS has said their goal is mobile. I think they know as well. But their response to saying "Playstation should become like Nintendo" tells me their Ulterior motive is to out bid/out maneuver the competition. If you make youself the go to place for the biggest third party titles and the most convenient it basically prices Sony out to rely on first party. Which would make them not direct competitors and MS would go unchallenged. Basically through this buyout, over time MS would push Sony out, by making them look like the more expensive option. Which in raw dollars spent by the consumer is correct."

 

[KiryuRealty]

Whenever I see Xbox fanboys crying about timed exclusives Sony paid for development on, I think back to Phill Spencer and other Xbox talking heads bragging about how Xbox Live Gold fees were what allowed them to buy exclusivity for DLC for COD and for some XBLA games to be permanent exclusives.

It seems that being an XBox fan requires being totally ignorant of the history and predatory nature of Microsoft. MS getting into the console business was always going to lead to bad things, and now we are at the point where their desperation to dominate the industry is hopefully at a breaking point for regulators.

Remember, if the FTC had done its job properly in 2000, Xbox wouldn't ever have happened.

 

[Old Gamer]

Remember, if the FTC had done its job properly in 2000, Xbox wouldn't ever have happened.

Also worth mentioning, the whole so-called justification for Xbox is "Sony needs competition". Well, MS were not the only company who could do that, but with them there, a lot of other companies simply cannot afford to.
And that's not even taking third parties that could have partnered with Nintendo into account.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Listening to spawncast now these people sound dumb as hell

These arguments that if “sony doesn’t leave microsoft alone microsoft is gonna buy the entire industry” is exactly why this is happening to them lol

Its like they can’t see the irony in this. They’re also are completely unaware that sony gets these good deals because they’re the market leaders. Microsoft can’t be spiteful buying GTA, CoD or Final Fantasy exclusivity when the majority of people don’t play those games on their platform.

Spawnwave and his audience definitely seem to lean Nintendo, but something I notice when he does his community polls is that when it's a Sony-centric topic he usually gives a loaded option that basically equates to "I'm not supporting it/not interested" which he doesn't do nearly as frequently for Xbox-centric poll topics, and NEVER does for Nintendo ones (the gaming-related stuff at least).

Like I said, these content creators can have preferences all they way but at least try to stay consistent in how you put out feelers to your audience on certain platforms and their content, try and not let that preference end up looking like a bias that negatively affects things outside of your preference. This isn't hard to do, or at least I thought it wasn't :S

 

[KiryuRealty]

Also worth mentioning, the whole so-called justification for Xbox is "Sony needs competition". Well, MS were not the only company who could do that, but with them there, a lot of other companies simply cannot afford to.
And that's not even taking third parties that could have partnered with Nintendo into account.

The problem with your theory is Nintendo's long-held stance that third-parties are competition, not partners.

 

[Deleted member 223]

Remember, if the FTC had done its job properly in 2000, Xbox wouldn't ever have happened.

As such, it would be foolish to expect the FTC to do its job now, and place hope on it. If in the low probability the deal gets canned by the FTC, then you would be safe to assume that there were more players involved behind the decisions, just as big as MS, with as much if not more current lobbying power...... not because the FTC gives two flying fucks about Sony or Nintendo or "fair competition"..... their footprint in DC/New York is minimal. After all these companies are Japanese, not American conglomerates, and you ultimately, look after your own. That Sony went the CMA route to ruffle feathers says it all really - considering the footprint Sony has in the UK. I still think it's all about dressing a "compromise" as regulatory oversight doing its job. Not much different than Congress oversight - a joke. Shit these days Congress oversight is a glorified job interview for the revolving door.

 

[KiryuRealty]

As such, it would be foolish to expect the FTC to do its job now, and place hope on it. If in the low probability the deal gets canned by the FTC, then you would be safe to assume that there were more players involved behind the decisions, just as big as MS, with as much if not more current lobbying power...... not because the FTC gives two flying fucks about Sony or Nintendo or "fair competition"..... their footprint in DC/New York is minimal. After all these companies are Japanese, not American conglomerates, and you ultimately, look after your own. That Sony went the CMA route to ruffle feathers says it all really - considering the footprint Sony has in the UK. I still think it's all about dressing a "compromise" as regulatory oversight doing its job. Not much different than Congress oversight - a joke. Shit these days Congress oversight is a glorified job interview for the revolving door.

There's far more concern about tech companies being abusive and uncompetitive these days than there was back at the turn of the century, due to the rise in ubiquity of tech in the average person's life, which makes the right outcome far more likely now than then.

Not to mention Microsoft violated the terms of the 2000 consent decree, and Steve Ballmer laughed about the fines not being a problem. They got away with one, but things have changed a lot, and MS is too dumb to avoid tipping their cap about their true intentions. The rug-pull on Starfield certainly won't help with their claims about Call of Duty not being made exclusive, either.

 

[Deleted member 223]

I think you're paying to much attention to commentariat about "concern" in the political sphere and partisan politicking in DC. The banking industry is in a worse state full of too big too fails who got there by design... the telecommunications industry is just as bad, from TV to ISPs. Everywhere you look it's a big fat consolidation mess full of too big to fail. The FTC is a joke, has been missing in action and will continue to be missing in action - by political design, and with it those "concerns" that amount to no more than a PR sideshow for the plebs to justify the existence of the entity and the salaried jobs it pays... every other noise amount to cries of the impotent and unimportant with no decision making power in the public sphere still holding tongue to an ideal long gone.... on top of the machinations of lobbying factions trying to fuck each other pushing certain voices in the "right direction" that abuse emotional plebs. Once you analyze the current economic configuration of the U.S, the conclusions are self evident. Fact is, no one gives a shit.

 

[KiryuRealty]

I think you're paying to much attention to commentariat about "concern" in the political sphere and partisan politicking in DC. The banking industry is in a worse state full of too big too fails who got there by design... the telecommunications industry is just as bad, from TV to ISPs. Everywhere you look it's a big fat consolidation mess full of too big to fail. The FTC is a joke, has been missing in action and will continue to be missing in action - by political design, and with it those "concerns" that amount to no more than a PR sideshow for the plebs to justify the existence of the entity and the salaried jobs it pays... every other noise amount to cries of the impotent and unimportant with no decision making power in the public sphere still holding tongue to an ideal long gone.... on top of the machinations of lobbying factions trying to fuck each other pushing certain voices in the "right direction" that abuse emotional plebs. Once you analyze the current economic configuration of the U.S, the conclusions are self evident. Fact is, no one gives a shit.

*oo big TO fail

You're too dismissive of the average person's views here. And I stay out of comment sections, so you're off the mark there.

Also, there's a great new thing called a paragraph, look into what one is and what it could do for you before you excrete your next wall of text.

 

[Deleted member 223]

It's gonna stay in block format forever.... it's just the way it's with me, including and not limited to grammatical errors. As for being dismissive, well what is there to prove that the people's voice matter? Any substantive wins lately that has come solely as the result of "people power" "people voice" and not some elite infighting result dressed around the cries of the plebs? Yeah I thought so. I was idealistic too and in retrospect due to such, simply dumb... very young fella days. The years haven't been kind to that outlook of the world or this country. Some folks retain that innocence longer than others, some forever stay young (the ruling elite love these). Its not like there is even a big "grassroots" movement against this move from the "gaming community". Just some old hardcore geezers, mostly PS fans sounding the obvious alarm. Nintendo fanboys by and large don't care, neither do PC fanboys (MS consumers ultimately), and Xbox fanboys fall in line and cheer. The casuals of all platforms could care less. Now that Sony stopped sleeping and cried a bit about getting fucked in the ass there is more movement in the PR space and commentariat but not enough for critical mass action - Sony simply does not have the clout of an Apple, META, Google or Amazon to cause outrage and bring the issue to national importance in the U.S. Again safe to say, if anything substantive happens that derails and outright stops this acquisition; it will be the result of action and decision making directed and influenced by too big to fail Silicon Valley giants fucking MS in the ass (and there is precedent for that) - Sony just being one of the beneficiaries of that result. Hardly idealistic oversight but you can bet your savings it will be dressed as a win for the plebs.

Obviously there are a lot of people whose emotions are deep into this due to how close to heart the gaming hobby is to them. In that regard I sympathize. A lot of folks thus, in desperation, attach themselves to ideals or anything that offers hope, a light at the end of the tunnel which in this case is regulatory oversight. Because of course, to entertain the alternative is horrific and depressing.... to have a hobby in an industry where the one with the bigger dick oversteps the "rules" and gets away with it... and all the other ethical or moral contradictions that surround it, after all, MS is far from an industry model, specially in gaming.Reality says, it's what it's and at this point it's a game of probabilities where the odds are not in your favor, and thus you shouldn't bet on it, nor emotionally attach yourself too hard with the low probable outcome.

 

[riesgoyfortuna]

It's gonna stay in block format forever.... it's just the way it's with me, including and not limited to grammatical errors. As for being dismissive, well what is there to prove that the people's voice matter? Any substantive wins lately that has come solely as the result of "people power" "people voice" and not some elite infighting result dressed around the cries of the plebs? Yeah I thought so. I was idealistic too and in retrospect due to such, simply dumb... very young fella days. The years haven't been kind to that outlook of the world or this country. Some folks retain that innocence longer than others, some forever stay young (the ruling elite love these). Its not like there is even a big "grassroots" movement against this move from the "gaming community". Just some old hardcore geezers, mostly PS fans sounding the obvious alarm. Nintendo fanboys by and large don't care, neither do PC fanboys (MS consumers ultimately), and Xbox fanboys fall in line and cheer. The casuals of all platforms could care less. Now that Sony stopped sleeping and cried a bit about getting fucked in the ass there is more movement in the PR space and commentariat but not enough for critical mass action - Sony simply does not have the clout of an Apple, META, Google or Amazon to cause outrage and bring the issue to national importance in the U.S. Again safe to say, if anything substantive happens that derails and outright stops this acquisition; it will be the result of action and decision making directed and influenced by too big to fail Silicon Valley giants fucking MS in the ass (and there is precedent for that) - Sony just being one of the beneficiaries of that result. Hardly idealistic oversight but you can bet your savings it will be dressed as a win for the plebs.

All this wall of text to say a lot of nonsense, good

 

[Deleted member 223]

Attacking the messenger is not gonna make cognitive dissonance go away. I guess it's what it's, there are 7 billion ants and growing after all.

 

[Darth Vader]

All this wall of text to say a lot of nonsense, good

They're absolutely correct though.

 

[KiryuRealty]

They're absolutely correct though.

No, he isn't. He isn't even coherent, let alone correct.