I've said, you implied it. SO WHAT if it was heavily bundled. As you mentioned it couple of times strictly. Yes, you are trying now to play victim card. I've provide a quotes. Read the post.
GT7 is just trailing behind GT3 to become the biggest Gran Turismo ever in dollar sales, and the biggest game in the franchise.
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I've said, you implied it. SO WHAT if it was heavily bundled. As you mentioned it couple of times strictly. Yes, you are trying now to play victim card. I've provide a quotes. Read the post.
And I'm asking you to link me to the comment that implied that? What's so hard? Come on... It's a simple press of a button
And I'm asking you to link me to the comment that implied that? What's so hard? Come on... It's a simple press of a button
It is post above or last post on previous page. LOL. Read it. Your posts are on very first page. If you trying to be a prick, you'll be reported.
So by asking you to quote my comment that you claimed (implied) "a console bundle is bad" ... Is now worth getting reported?
Though I can quote many of my comments in here that actually states I implied the opposite of what you claim...
It's okay for you to twist comments, call me delusional but if you get called out for it .. oh it's called being "a prick"
All of a sudden?
Bundles has always been a sales talking point, especially if a particular game gets bundled aggressively all through the generation.
Nah. Just from bots. Mario Kart 8 is probably the most bundled game and I don't hear a thing
You have it on last page, one of the last posts. With LINK.
Yes, you are trying to be a prick. I've provided you a YOUR quotes and you continuously asking for quotes post after post and mocking me. So, why is so hard for you to go back and read it.
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See it now? I hope.
I literally just saw you went back edited a post after I replied to it, sorry the forum doesn't notify us if you go back and add stuff to a comment...
And neither of those comments implied anything about "a console bundle being bad"... I'm gonna just assume there's a language barrier as it's not the first time you've misinterpreted things.
Good day
And you didn't read at all what i've said back then. First post on this page
If some game sold good, there is no need to bring bundle excuse (as you did couple of times). At all. That's the point of bundles.
And if you read the original comments...
1) I mentioned bundles first stating I doubt any GT game will ever surpass GT3 in units sold as it moved a ton of hardware bundles.
2) responded to a poster stating GT3 sold so much better in North America over GT4 as it was heavily bundled compared to the others.
Again nowhere did I imply "bundles were bad".
On this very forum I've seen users downplay the sales figures of MK8 because of how bundled the game is.
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During the Insomniac leaks you had folks on two opposing side of the fence when it came to TLoU Part II sales.
Camp liking TLoU Part II: TLoU Remastered was bundled aggressively through the early/mid gen, sales are inflated, TLoU Part II is doing fine.
Not liking TLoU Part II: Look, Druckmann ruining Naughty Dog, sequel is going to sell way less than the 20M+ of Part I.
The point I'm trying to make is that people will talk about bundles differently depending on how they feel about a particular game, especially in the enthusiast sphere. One day certain things will matter, sometime they will not.
Would it be cool if everyone was more consistent with their stances? Yeah, but that's not often the case.
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Funny thing is... TLOU 2 was ONLY bundled with PS4 Pro.
As someone said to you, it really doesn't matter. Bundled copy is a sold copy.
I wasnt a fan of Sackoy, it was ok, but lacked some charm and depth. Maybe they could get it to work but I felt Asobi got the feels down much better for Astrobot. They need someone else to help them if they do give it to Sumo.
Sony gave them there first big break. Hopefully they are working together. It was a decent first game for sure. And the graphics were great so a small team
We were discussing Franchise Unit sales stop being obtuse. The numbers were posted and the discussion started. Again, I said I doubt any GT game will ever sell 7+ million in NA again. Nowhere did I imply bundles sales doesn't count.
I thought Sackboy was brilliant. I think Sumo is working on another PlayStation exclusive but could be wrong.
I really don't want to see other PlayStation studios given legacy IP's honestly so Asobi should do their own thing personally. But I'd be down for a new Jak though not sure what direction would work as the series itself kinda changed with each iteration
GT7 feels like it was made by people who care about the product. The attention to detail is staggering, and the VR implementation is perfect. It earned its success.
I’m glad PlayStation gives PD all they need to succeed. Imagine if the game was designed by middle managers and developed by 18-month contractors.
I’m glad PlayStation gives PD all they need to succeed. Imagine if the game was designed by middle managers and developed by 18-month contractors.
I agree. Give it new blood or mix it up with some vets and new guys. Same with Resistance and Killzone etc. Get some older devs and recruit some new people like ND and Insomniac always does. Sucker Punch should do the same with Sly which wouldnt even need a huge team.
They have plenty of ex JapanStudio guys who help make games for PS on the side. I they should just get them to help Sumo make it with some ex ND, ex Cerny japan studio guys.
As for direction. Between Jak & Daxter 1 and Jak 2 lol. Wasnt Jak 3 more like Jak 2.
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Would be a shell of itself even though they also outsource alot but I'm sure they are on top of it with quality control.