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Nomen_Nescio

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Seems like PC players are mostly mad with it's anti-cheat system based on Steam review, typical.
Well that and poor optimization from what I hear, PS5 players apparently have noticeably less problems. The wonders of PC gaming and day 1 ports.
 
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Darth Vader

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Sounds like fearmongering and the rootkit scandal from Sony was almost 20 years ago.

If they are worried Jim Ryan is going to see their porn stash they can play on PS5 instead 🤣
Sounds like you shouldn't comment on shit you don't understand. Anti-piracy software is more than ok and expected. Installing a rootkit in your machine isn't.

Denuvo was spun from Sony if I'm not mistake, Sony has been long seen as a villain by PC player, this is not going to end well for either sides.
This has nothing to do with DRM. It's primarily an anti-cheat software


Just looking at that website and I get vibes of those spam websites from the early 2000s
 

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Sounds like fearmongering and the rootkit scandal from Sony was almost 20 years ago.

If they are worried Jim Ryan is going to see their porn stash they can play on PS5 instead 🤣
Well, like I said, it's probably fine. It's still understandable why people don't like the idea though. In the PC space there's a long standing unwritten rule that the hardware belongs to the user and that if a company attempts to put software on it that compromises that, people are unhappy.
 

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Sounds like you shouldn't comment on shit you don't understand. Anti-piracy software is more than ok and expected. Installing a rootkit in your machine isn't.


This has nothing to do with DRM. It's primarily an anti-cheat software


Just looking at that website and I get vibes of those spam websites from the early 2000s
Sony is used to having 100% control of the hardware, they'll only be open to dealing with cheating and piracy for so long without trying to come up with solutions of their own.

In the end there will only be regret from all sides.
 

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Game runs at 1080p 30 maxed out on an ancient GTX 1060. Lower settings and you get to 60 easily.

Yeah and that kernel level shit has to go. I remember when CAPCOM tried that and then ended up bending over. Maybe is a lesson that Sony will learn of they are wise enough. After all this is their first big online game launch
 

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Well, like I said, it's probably fine. It's still understandable why people don't like the idea though. In the PC space there's a long standing unwritten rule that the hardware belongs to the user and that if a company attempts to put software on it that compromises that, people are unhappy.
It's not just that.

A Rootkit gives it's controller full low level access to your machine. I can only imagine what could happen if those guys were compromised.

Sony is used to having 100% control of the hardware, they'll only be open to dealing with cheating and piracy for so long without trying to come up with solutions of their own.
There's no solution of their own though, and it's not their hardware. And this anti-cheat doesn't even prevent cheating, PUBG uses / used it and has been plagued by cheating since forever/

Valve has a much less invasive anti-piracy solution and community driven reporting system that is much better than that piece of crap Sony bundled with their game. It's possible to do better.

Looking at who uses nprotect... God damn Sony.


This one's even worse.

 
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It's not just that.

A Rootkit gives it's controller full low level access to your machine. I can only imagine what could happen if those guys were compromised.


There's no solution of their own though, and it's not their hardware. And this anti-cheat doesn't even prevent cheating, PUBG uses / used it and has been plagued by cheating since forever/

Valve has a much less invasive anti-piracy solution and community driven reporting system that is much better than that piece of crap Sony bundled with their game. It's possible to do better.

Looking at who uses nprotect... God damn Sony.


This one's even worse.

Why not get the game on PS5, if you own it?
 
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It's not just that.

A Rootkit gives it's controller full low level access to your machine. I can only imagine what could happen if those guys were compromised.


There's no solution of their own though, and it's not their hardware. And this anti-cheat doesn't even prevent cheating, PUBG uses / used it and has been plagued by cheating since forever/

Valve has a much less invasive anti-piracy solution and community driven reporting system that is much better than that piece of crap Sony bundled with their game. It's possible to do better.

Looking at who uses nprotect... God damn Sony.


This one's even worse.

the thing is that most of the anticheat software these days use kernel level access so it's basically....if you're playing MP games on PC now, you're using something like this already.
 
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the thing is that most of the anticheat software these days use kernel level access so it's basically....if you're playing MP games on PC now, you're using something like this already.
Nope, the two or three I play or played have no root level anti-cheat. Admittedly a couple of the mp / live service games I play are on the older side.
 

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Nope, the two or three I play or played have no root level anti-cheat. Admittedly a couple of the mp / live service games I play are on the older side.
Well, the most popular MP games on pc (fortnite, cs: go) e.g. have them. I totally get why you'd avoid this though. Also Riot uses kernel level anticheat for league of legends and valorant.
 

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Well, like I said, it's probably fine. It's still understandable why people don't like the idea though. In the PC space there's a long standing unwritten rule that the hardware belongs to the user and that if a company attempts to put software on it that compromises that, people are unhappy.
If they are that paranoid about the Arrowhead devs accessing their HD they should change their habits because anticheat is everywhere on PC. I bet they already have all of this and worse on their PC and they don't know.

Well, the most popular MP games on pc (fortnite, cs: go) e.g. have them. I totally get why you'd avoid this though. Also Riot uses kernel level anticheat for league of legends and valorant.
So all the most popular games use this LMAO
 
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Seems fine on PC now. I was inundated with "network disconnected" errors this morning that are gone now.

Performance/optimization seems fine. I'm getting 60fps on a 6700XT with 'balanced' render scale and mostly highest settings, which were autodetected. I finished the first mission solo. Sorry folks, it doesn't look like the PC version is fucked after all.
 
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