Hermen Hulst Master Plan

[Plextorage]

Yes? Like it always was with very few exceptions.

So, you would likely rather sooner to show crappy and unfinished ala Halo Infinite game just to be satisfied, huh? When Icon Era trying to run someone's business

 

[Nhomnhom]

Maybe depending on exclusivity, Kojima gets a lot of dev support from Sony, so I'd have to see. But probably not. I wouldn't count Callisto Protocol after all. There's no way it comes out next year though, I'm thinking late 2025. What I want to see first and foremost are not games that Sony just has marketing rights for. That's 90% of the games at this show. I want to see true exclusives, games that really show me why I have a PS5.

Like, best case scenario Jim developed amnesia or misunderstood the reputation Sony worked to build up for their showcases and they're actually saving more first party content for another show like they did in 2020. I'm not holding my breath though.

Jim Ryan: "Let's start with the GaaS trash just to let the hardcore fan base feel it, then when they are at their lowest we hit them with SSM new IP, Bend new IP, The Last of Us Part III + Factions, GoT 2, Uncharted Reboot, new FromSoftware exclusive, Japan Studio 2, Bloodborne by Team Bloober, PS3 native support and Half-Life Alyx port."

It never was like that. So, VGA doesn't count, huh?

It was always like that it was always very uncommon for Sony to announce games and release them in the same year. TLoU Part I is the exception. You are clearly in denial dude.

 

[Plextorage]

It was always like that it was always very uncommon for Sony to announce games and release them in the same year. TLoU Part I is the exception. You are clearly in denial dude.

It wasn't always like that. GT Sport was in late 2015. I think Oct. or Nov. that year

So, you would likely rather sooner to show crappy and unfinished ala Halo Infinite game just to be satisfied, huh? When Icon Era trying to run someone's business

 

[Killer_Sakoman]

There is more than 6 months left and Neil Druckman promised more info of Factions 2 in 2023. So, you wanted everything to be showed yesterday, huh? Stellar Blade nowhere to be seen, yet it had showed gameplay at the beginning of this year and slated for late 2023. Ignorance is a bliss.



Ignoring PSVR 2 games i see. . So, hypothetical question : If Death Stranding 2 is slated for 2023, would you count Death Stranding 2 as a Sony's 1st party game despite it is 3rd party developer?

Death Stranding 2 is 1st party game. Kojima Production is 3rd party developer

 

[Plextorage]

Death Stranding 2 is 1st party game. Kojima Production is 3rd party developer

So, Firewall Ultra is a 1st party game too because Sony owns the IP.

 

[Nhomnhom]

It wasn't always like that

So, you would likely rather sooner to show crappy and unfinished ala Halo Infinite game just to be satisfied, huh? When Icon Era trying to run someone's business

Not having something to show is already a problem, their solution to how they'll handle that is not my problem.

They sold 120m+ PS4 and are going to sell even more PS5 if they failed to invest the necessary amount to guarantee a steady output of banger AAA games they already failed.

In year 3 of PS4 we were getting the best E3 ever (on the back of multiple classic E3 shows in a row as well as Gamescom and PlayStation Experience shows), now we get this garbage after almost 2 years of nothing.

 

[Plextorage]

Not having something to show is already a problem, their solution to how they'll handle that is not my problem.

They sold 120m+ PS4 and are going to sell even more PS5 if they failed to invest the necessary amount to guarantee a steady output of banger AAA games they already failed.

Then don't bitching around if it is not ready to be shown. One of the solution is to show a game late during the year if it is ready. Just as i mentioned above, GT Sport was announced in late 2015 ( Oct or Nov ).

 

[Nhomnhom]

Then don't bitching around if it is not ready to be shown. One of the solution is to show a game late during the year if it is ready. Just as i mentioned above, GT Sport was announced in late 2015 ( Oct or Nov ).

One of the solution is to make the games and show them. Why are you mad that I don't like it, it's not my problem if your bar for an acceptable output is so low.

 

[Killer_Sakoman]

So, Firewall Ultra is a 1st party game too because Sony owns the IP.

Yes

 

[Plextorage]

One of the solution is to make the games and show them.

But they aren't ready yet. So, you would rather force developer to show a game, even it is in very bad state like Halo Infinte or Redfall, just you to be satisfied. But when delay happens....How the fuck delay happened? Really, i can't figure it out?

Why are you mad that I don't like it, it's not my problem if your bar for an acceptable output is so low.

Because you are trying to generalize a game as a bad game if you don't like it. I don't like Fortnite, but that doesn't mean it is a bad game. It is a good game, but not my cup of tea

 

[Plextorage]

Yes

Ok, So, it counts for 2023. Need to find who owns Stellar Blade IP. It is published by Sony, though

 

[anonpuffs]

So, Firewall Ultra is a Sony's IP and it is an exclusive game for PSVR 2. So, it does count, huh? Need to check about Stellar Blade is Sony's IP because it is published by Sony.

Firewall ultra will count if it's good. Stellar blade is a 3rd party studio (shift_up), might count if it's good. The problem is we haven't seen anything besides CG trailers.

 

[Killer_Sakoman]

But they aren't ready yet. So, you would rather force developer to show a game, even it is in very bad state like Halo Infinte or Redfall, just you to be satisfied. But when delay happens....How the fuck delay happened? Really, i can't figure it out?





Because you are trying to generalize a game as a bad game if you don't like it. I don't like Fortnite, but that doesn't mean it is a bad game. It is a good game, but not my cup of tea

He didn't say Fortnite is bad ( though it is). He just said your bar is low.

 

[Nhomnhom]

But they aren't ready yet.

They are not ready because they didn't make them. They were too worried about making GaaS games and porting games to PC.

They couldn't bother with a Bloodborne Remaster, with a Killzone Trilogy port, with a Resistance Collection port, they don't do the bare minimum for the amount of money their console makes but somehow find the time to waste on stupid stuff.

I'm asking for stuff that we use to get consistently before, not some mystical unachievable goal. They just need to do their job and show up with the games.

 

[kyliethicc]

This is a distinction without difference.

Not sure why that guy is complaining about the tv deal though, thats been nothing but a success and has led to increased sales of TLOU back catalog titles.

The difference is clear.

A studio closure means 1 fewer development studio is now making games. Japan being renamed Asobi didn’t result in a decrease of SIE internal development studios. It remained the same.

 

[Zzero]

The difference is clear.

A studio closure means 1 fewer development studio is now making games. Japan being renamed Asobi didn’t result in a decrease of SIE internal development studios. It remained the same.

You still have one fewer game being made, the Ico/SotC/TLG people got the ax.

 

[Nhomnhom]

The difference is clear.

A studio closure means 1 fewer development studio is now making games. Japan being renamed Asobi didn’t result in a decrease of SIE internal development studios. It remained the same.

That makes it sound like you don't know what Japan Studio was. It has multiple teams making game there and now only one is left. It might not change anything in studio list wars but it has an effect in reality and in their output of games.

 

[Plextorage]

They are not ready because they didn't make them. They were too worried about making GaaS games and porting games to PC.

That's why they've bought a proper studios for that.

They couldn't bother with a Bloodborne Remaster, with a Killzone Trilogy port, with a Resistance Collection port, they don't do the bare minimum for the amount of money their console makes but somehow find the time to waste on stupid stuff.

Em.... They are financing games which are in development perhaps??

I'm asking for stuff that we use to get consistently before, not some mystical unachievable goal. They just need to do their job and show up with the games.

They've showed it yesterday ( for now)

 

[Plextorage]

Firewall ultra will count if it's good. Stellar blade is a 3rd party studio (shift_up), might count if it's good. The problem is we haven't seen anything besides CG trailers.

Wait, we now count games as 1st party if it good or not? So, Order 1886 is not a 1st party game because it is not that good, huh?
Wait, you don't know that Stellar Blade has a 10 minute gameplay video?? Also you have a bunch of Firewall Ultra gameplay videos

He didn't say Fortnite is bad ( though it is). He just said your bar is low.

He literally said GAAS games are trash because he don't like GAAS games ( i've mentioned Fortnite as an example as not my cup tea, but it is a good game). My bar is low because i appreciate smaller games. Ok then.

 

[Nhomnhom]

That's why they've bought a proper studios for that.

Yet ND ported TLoU Part I and is workign on GaaS games. Guerrilla, London and Insomniac are also reportedly working on GaaS games.

He literally said GAAS games are trash because he don't like GAAS games ( i've mentioned Fortnite as an example as not my cup tea, but it is a good game). My bar is low because i appreciate smaller games. Ok then.

Why would a game that I have zero interest in ever playing not be trash / a waste of time for me? I don't work at Sony I don't care about what is best for them, I care about what is best for me and that is getting good games.