We saw PS5 sales explode in China due to Wukong... I don't see why they should give up potential massive growth just to support other storefronts.Because that could negatively affect their console business, unlike what is happening from PC.
And well, the PC userbase, specially in emerging markets where they want to expand like Asia, is huge. So Sony uses PC to expand their brands. The Xbox userbase is pretty small and wouldn't help them to grow a lot.
I thought the previous Insomniac leaked numbers I posted were from February 2022 from memory, but they were from February 2023 instead. My fault. Just went to double check it:No it didn't. It sold less than 1 million in 3 months (971k). This is an official figure from Sony, they even made a chart. You're inflating the PC numbers as usual with your bullshit.
Horizon was also less at 2.4 millions and Days Gone only 852k. They didn't sell another million of Horizon on PC after 2022 the game disappeared from any chart. BS numbers.
Sony reveals official PC sales numbers for God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn & Days Gone
Sony has just revealed the official PC sales figures for God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn and Days Gone.www.dsogaming.com
Sony gets 70-80% of the sales they do in these other storefronts. And most PC players are in these storefronts and don't like to buy in other ones. For their PC storefront to be successful, they need to have first a big PC fanbase to access these players to steal them later.We saw PS5 sales explode in China due to Wukong... I don't see why they should give up potential massive growth just to support other storefronts.
Also I can't imagine them being anything more than 10m a popI'd like to know in what universe PC ports are costing 2 - 3 million dollars ... Are we in 1997?
I thought the previous Insomniac leaked numbers I posted were from February 2022 from memory, but they were from February 2023 instead. My fault. Just went to double check it:
"February 2023.
- Horizon Zero Dawn - 3.3M
- God Of War - 2.5m
- Days Gone - 1.7m
- Spider-Man Remastered - 1.3m
- Uncharted - 483.2k
- Miles Morales - 450.2K
- Sackboy - 62.9k"
If memory serves me right I recall the Spiderman PC port costing around 20 millionAlso I can't imagine them being anything more than 10m a pop
All of the assets are completed. The game runs on the same architecture as most PCs. All you'd have to do is get it working with MS APIs like DirectX.
Literal hobbyists port games like Mario 64 to all sorts of platforms. No fuckin shot that it's somehow some 50m expenditure that needs 2m sales to break even
HELL fuckin nah. Are you mario from mario odyssey? That's the biggest fucking cap I've ever seenIf memory serves me right I recall the Spiderman PC port costing around 20 million
Cheap shitPC Ports budgets (as of Feb 2023):
Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart PC Port: $2.5 million
Spider-Man Remastered PC Port: $2.3 million
- FY21: $0.1 million
- FY22: $0.9 million
- FY23: $1.6 million
Spider-Man Miles Morales PC Port: $1.5 million
- FY21: $0.4 million
- FY22: $1.9 million
- FY23: $0.0 million.
Spider-Man 2 PC Port: $4.6 million
- FY21: $0.2 million
- FY22: $1.2 million
Wolverine PC Port: $4.0 million
- FY22: $0.0 million
- FY23: $0.6 million
- FY24: $4.0 million
- FY25: $0.0 million
Spider-Man 3 PC Port:
- FY26: $2.0 million
- FY27: $2.0 million
Spider-Man 2 PC Port is listed for FY25, which is the period between April 2025 to March 2026.
- FY27: $7.0 million
Source - Installbase Forum
Okay cool, stand correctedHELL fuckin nah. Are you mario from mario odyssey? That's the biggest fucking cap I've ever seen
Literal quote from someone else on the site
Cheap shit
You don't liking sales numbers doesn't mean they are wrong. It just means you don't like them, and if you don't accept them, maybe says more about you than about them.Those numbers are wrong too. They are just a few months later, it's impossible they sold more than double of God of War PC after the first 4 months. The game wasn't that high anywhere. It would top NPD for months if it was true. Double Days Gone, over a million for Horizon. It's impossible.
Are you going to believe leak BS numbers or official numbers Sony made in their own investors report?
Those numbers are probably the revenue they made from their flop ports, not unit sales.
You live in fantasyland if you think GOW sold 1.6 millions in 6 months if it only sold 971k the first 3 months (OFFICIAL NUMBER FROM SONY). Probably on the Epic store in that planet you live on.They are real sales numbers (not revenue) from leaked Insomniac documents we doublechecked back then that came from the leak. We saw that a ton of other info from the leak was real and none of it was fake. So these numbers must be real too.
They wouldn't even sign up to PSN for free... Why would anyone think they'd move to another store?I thought the previous Insomniac leaked numbers I posted were from February 2022 from memory, but they were from February 2023 instead. My fault. Just went to double check it:
"February 2023.
https://gameworldobserver.com/2023/12/19/playstation-pc-game-sales-leak-insomniac-budgets-roi
- Horizon Zero Dawn - 3.3M
- God Of War - 2.5m
- Days Gone - 1.7m
- Spider-Man Remastered - 1.3m
- Uncharted - 483.2k
- Miles Morales - 450.2K
- Sackboy - 62.9k"
These February 2023 leaked numbers perfectly match with the March 2022 numbers you posted.
Sony gets 70-80% of the sales they do in these other storefronts. And most PC players are in these storefronts and don't like to buy in other ones. For their PC storefront to be successful, they need to have first a big PC fanbase to access these players to steal them later.
To build a PC storefront isn't cheap. So they first create their PC fanbase, and later once it's big enough with part of these profits they create their own storefront. That storefront will also need a time of filling with games, particularly 1st and 3rd party to slowly migrate their PC userbase from other PC stores to there.
Most Chinese users are on PC and mobile. By supporting these local games -mostly played in PC like Wukong or in mobile like Mihoyo- Sony gets more popular in China, and also their console. So the console sales grow there.
Also I can't imagine them being anything more than 10m a pop
All of the assets are completed. The game runs on the same architecture as most PCs. All you'd have to do is get it working with MS APIs like DirectX.
Literal hobbyists port games like Mario 64 to all sorts of platforms. No fuckin shot that it's somehow some 50m expenditure that needs 2m sales to break even
You don't liking sales numbers doesn't mean they are wrong. It just means you don't like them, and if you don't accept them, maybe says more about you than about them.
They are real sales numbers (not revenue) from leaked Insomniac documents we doublechecked back then that came from the leak. We saw that a ton of other info from the leak was real and none of it was proven fake. So these numbers must be real too.
Games -specially in PC- keep selling over years, specially when discounted. In the case of these games sales are even less focused on their early couple of months because their are expensive full priced ports of old games, so people waits -even more than in case of new games- until they get discounted.
Because you can see it all over the internet lol. Obviously not all PC gamers feel that way but alot of PC gamers.Y u think we wanna kill PS?
Don't most PC gamers also own a PlayStation as well?
You don't think this might just be because negativity sells? And Playstation may have actually made some missteps along the way? It doesn't mean people want the brand gone.The amount of FUD and attempts to put PS in a negative light or that there projects are failures has overwhelming these last few years.
You don't think this might just be because negativity sells? And Playstation may have actually made some missteps along the way? It doesn't mean people want the brand gone.
I feel like you guys are lost in the sauce and genuinely think that people have this burning hatred for all things Playstation.Which isn't true because the console and the games are selling. Not everything on the net is astroturfed and not everybody is an Xbox/Valve fanboy. This victim mentality over one of the most successful consoles brands feels like conspiracy theory shit.
Concurrent Players are not estimates for total sales.Only 11,530 that shit is flopping bad
They will struggle to sell 500k at this rate after selling 15 millions on PS
They sell the same amount in a weekend on PSN
Concurrent Players are not estimates for total sales.
for the record I completely forgot this game was coming to PC, wanna know why? Suffering the same problem FF16 did, NO ADVERTISEMENTS. If you want Sony to extremely well on PC, they should release the one thing PC has been asking for, for literal years. Bloodborne. That would be their golden ticket, but they want to sit around and do nothing with the IP, they would prefer it to die rather than do anything with it. People are literally emulating the game because of Sony's inaction and they can't blame anyone but themselves, Bloodborne doesn't even have a PS5 port, it's just backwards compatible.
also, Sony is requiring a PSN account, which further limits the amount of people who can actually buy and play the game, remember the whole HD2 fiasco? It's that all over again but instead of selling and then taking it away, they did it from the start.
sidenote, its at 14.7k now, just broke peak again.