Incoming announcement on Xbox titles future exclusivity and publishing

[Deleted member 223]

I love how they try to formalize it with buzzwords.

"Metrics driven" "internet discourse not considered but concerns are valid".

No shit.

Very unfortunate cause "internet discourse" is one of many direct indicators of the state of the consumer/product relationship. I think if anything, in the games industry these companies are spoiled at the amount of feedback you are able to gather gratuitously because of the passion consumers have for gaming, and the specific platforms they support. No better industry to be in to have a pulse on consumer feedback yet the spoiled brats bitch about toxicity. It's like STFU. More often than not the streets will speak loud and clear and give plenty of advance warning when they feel the brand/platform/product is not going the right way, or something is not sitting right. It's not the job of the consumer to deliver that message in crystal clear fashion, noise-free so you can adjust your strategy before the "metrics" in after-the-fact fashion (after the fuck up) show the results and consequences of poor strategy, leadership and decision making. It's the job of the corp, of its leadership, of its decision makers to be capable of sifting through that noise - to pick up the right pulse - and thus identify what is working and what is not. Again, compared to other industries and other businesses, gaming is blessed as far as consumer engagement and feedback is concerned.

Anyways screwing up royally shows, in many ways, the consequences of not paying attention to these indicators properly, and the failure in the organization to incorporate that feedback into decision making. That language everyone understands.

If all a suit is going to do is put their head in the sand and only deal with curated polling from the polling firms these companies dole cash to... the data merchants on the data grift.... well... don't act surprised when shit hits the fan. You gotta have a pulse of the streets - always. You lose the streets or ignore the streets with reckless abandon... well you can only hold out for so long.

Metrics (i.e numbers) are literally an after-the fact indicator.

 

[Plextorage]

Nest thing for Xbox gamers is for Xbox to go away

That's the actually best thing that can happen to them.

 

[Plextorage]

Xbox fans can't be faulted for their loyalty and optimism.

For Xbox fuck ups they can blame only themselves to allow to be brainwashed

 

[Nhomnhom]

What's the point in asking me dumb questions? You thought bringing up Activision games that are already on PlayStation was gonna make a point?

You brought up CoD a game they are legally binded to release on Playstation for the next decade as an example.

Do you think Fable is launching on PlayStation day one for example? That's what I'm referring to. I don't see this AAA games coming to PlayStation along the Xbox launch.

I never specifically said that all their games going forward are going to release on PS day one, that is something you came up with. All their games will release on PlayStation eventually because Xbox is pretty much dead already.

Will Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable or whatever else Xbox studios will be making in the future make their way to PlayStation within the next 10 years? 100%, just like they already release on Steam. They couldn't have been more clear about the lack of future for Xbox consoles, they PC store, cloud and GaaS are not taking off so there is nowhere they can go with those games besides PlayStation and Nintendo consoles.

 

[Plextorage]

. I don't think you guys remember how well that system was selling the first 3 years in the main markets.

Actually no. X360 get huge sales bump when Kinect was launched

Series consoles falling behind was always gonna happen but they are still gonna end this generation with at least 40 million I think..a failure but not a dead brand.

Not true. Series sales were ahead of Xbones sales in first 2 years.

 

[Johnic]

All those posts seem like PR damage control. They're so contrived that even the person who wrote them doesn't know what exactly it means.

Expect the shills to kick into PR mode in the next few days, to tell us how this'll be great for xbox.

 

[Danja]

I never specifically said that all their games going forward are going to release on PS day one, that is something you came up with. All their games will release on PlayStation eventually because Xbox is pretty much dead already.

Then what's the point of this discussion? I literally said I can see them bringing over the games once they have exhausted them?

Those Tentpole games will not be launching on PS5 and if they do they will come once Microsoft has exhausted them. But this is all speculation. I can see them bringing over older Tentpole games but ... They aren't gonna crater their business beyond repair the way you guys are thinking

Will Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable or whatever else Xbox studios will be making in the future make their way to PlayStation within the next 10 years? 100%, just like they already release on Steam. They couldn't have been more clear about the lack of future for Xbox consoles, they PC store, cloud and GaaS are not taking off so there is nowhere they can go with those games besides PlayStation and Nintendo consoles.

AGAIN this comment basically is what I've been saying that I can see them bringing their major games over once they have gotten revenues from their main platforms.

We can endd this here and it's going in circles

 

[Danja]

Actually no. X360 get huge sales bump when Kinect was launched



Not true. Series sales were ahead of Xbones sales in first 2 years.

What's the point of deleting most of my comment and nit picking words to basically say the same thing I said in other parts of my comment you deleted?

 

[Plextorage]

What's the point of deleting most of my comment and nit picking words to basically say the same thing I said in other parts of my comment you deleted?

Basically 90% of your post was quoted!!

 

[Heisenberg007]

I now firmly believe this is one of the biggest reasons why Phil made Sarah the Head of Xbox. So he doesn't have to do this announcement himself.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Xbox releasing strategic games to get money, MAU and ongoing revenue streams from their competitiors and that's all it will be.

Tentpole games still ain't coming to PlayStation

What's a tentpole game among Xbox 1P not coming over to other consoles? COD? Still multiplat. HiFi Rush isn't a tentpole game and is multi-console status is basically confirmed at this point. Pentiment is still exclusive, but isn't a tentpole release. ESO? Multiplat/multi-console. Same with Fallout '76. Starfield? Arguably tentpole in intended role but not in practice with relation to the rest of the market. Halo Infinite? Same case as Starfield, arguably even more so in terms of missing the mark.

The only real tentpoles MS have that are exclusive to Xbox console-wise, are Forza Horizon, Indiana Jones, and...that's about it. Keep in mind when I think "tentpole", I think of games not only highly revered with media & gamers but also proven blockbusters in sales (or even just drawing in big sub growth). Exclusives-wise Xbox doesn't have much anything in that respect so it doesn't mean much if they don't bring games like Pentiment, Grounded etc. to PS & Nintendo, when they're already bringing the biggest games like COD, ESO, Fallout '76, Minecraft etc. to those very same platforms.

I now firmly believe this is one of the biggest reasons why Phil made Sarah the Head of Xbox. So he doesn't have to do this announcement himself.

Likely a big factor. People are already blaming & attacking him on Twitter and none of the rumors have been confirmed officially yet. I imagine it'd be horrible if he were the one to deliver the announcement himself.

Sarah Bond wouldn't draw similar vitriol in part because she doesn't have Phil's baggage in public relations of broken promises to the core fanbase, is an attractive woman, and a woman of color. The diehards who'd be super-pissed if Phil gave the news (whatever the news ends up being), most would check themselves if it's Sarah Bond either because they'll simp for her like they did for her (and Lulu) during the ABK deal, don't want to appear misogynist, sexist, racist or some combination of the three (knowing it'd also reflect badly on the community).

 

[Danja]

Not true. Series sales were ahead of Xbones sales in first 2 years.

For obvious reasons? The Series had worldwide launch? The Xbox One has a staggered Tier Launch. The Xbox One was selling extremely well for the first 3 years as they were far more aggressive with it. It was giving PS4 a good challenge especially in North America compared to the PS5 / Series console.

Series falling behind Xbox One was inevitable.

 

[ultimateFF]

Xbox fans can't be faulted for their loyalty and optimism.

Those damn insecure cult need to be put in trial and jailed in prison .

 

[Heisenberg007]

Xbox needs Hardware and I dunno why some PlayStation fans keep thinking Xbox is gonna abandon this market

Xbox will be forced out of the market when no one buys their consoles, as PlayStation will offer PS exclusives, Xbox games, and the most third-party games.

 

[Danja]

What's a tentpole game among Xbox 1P not coming over to other consoles? COD? Still multiplat. HiFi Rush isn't a tentpole game and is multi-console status is basically confirmed at this point. Pentiment is still exclusive, but isn't a tentpole release. ESO? Multiplat/multi-console. Same with Fallout '76. Starfield? Arguably tentpole in intended role but not in practice with relation to the rest of the market. Halo Infinite? Same case as Starfield, arguably even more so in terms of missing the mark.

The only real tentpoles MS have that are exclusive to Xbox console-wise, are Forza Horizon, Indiana Jones, and...that's about it. Keep in mind when I think "tentpole", I think of games not only highly revered with media & gamers but also proven blockbusters in sales (or even just drawing in big sub growth). Exclusives-wise Xbox doesn't have much anything in that respect so it doesn't mean much if they don't bring games like Pentiment, Grounded etc. to PS & Nintendo, when they're already bringing the biggest games like COD, ESO, Fallout '76, Minecraft etc. to those very same platforms.

Games they can center huge marketing around that has some mind share. Halo, Gears, Forza.. they are pushing for Fable to be an AAA game again we'll see. Obviously their games aren't on the level of a Sony / Nintendo Tentpole anymore but I was referring to their AAA games.

 

[Nhomnhom]

What's a tentpole game among Xbox 1P not coming over to other consoles? COD? Still multiplat. HiFi Rush isn't a tentpole game and is multi-console status is basically confirmed at this point. Pentiment is still exclusive, but isn't a tentpole release. ESO? Multiplat/multi-console. Same with Fallout '76. Starfield? Arguably tentpole in intended role but not in practice with relation to the rest of the market. Halo Infinite? Same case as Starfield, arguably even more so in terms of missing the mark.

The only real tentpoles MS have that are exclusive to Xbox console-wise, are Forza Horizon, Indiana Jones, and...that's about it. Keep in mind when I think "tentpole", I think of games not only highly revered with media & gamers but also proven blockbusters in sales (or even just drawing in big sub growth). Exclusives-wise Xbox doesn't have much anything in that respect so it doesn't mean much if they don't bring games like Pentiment, Grounded etc. to PS & Nintendo, when they're already bringing the biggest games like COD, ESO, Fallout '76, Minecraft etc. to those very same platforms.

I can't take the Indiana Jones game they showed seriously, Shadow of the Tom Raider was far more impressive for it's time and bombed hard.

 

[ultimateFF]

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Also, that OT is absolute disaster LMFAO . That fuckin eksbotz mod judge betrayed his own people, banning most of eksbotz lieutenants including montresor, whom I respected the least because of some of his banger posts including his latest one .

 

[Danja]

Xbox will be forced out of the market when no one buys their consoles, as PlayStation will offer PS exclusives, Xbox games, and the most third-party games.

They can exit the console race and still make hardware. Which was what I'm trying to get at. They still will make some sort of hardware to sustain Game Pass as long as they keep the service going.

 

[ultimateFF]

I now firmly believe this is one of the biggest reasons why Phil made Sarah the Head of Xbox. So he doesn't have to do this announcement himself.

I expect nothing less from the coward leader of the cult, phil who want to shift the blame to other people just to protect his own reputation .

 

[Plextorage]

For obvious reasons? The Series had worldwide launch? The Xbox One has a staggered Tier Launch. The Xbox One was selling extremely well for the first 3 years as they were far more aggressive with it.

Wasn't in firts 2 years. And you didn't know that surely. Easy to say it know, huh. Also, Xbox Series was good in first 2 years because XSS.

It was giving PS4 a good challenge especially in North America compared to the PS5 / Series console.

Actually no. PS4 already gained a big worldwide advantage in 2014. First trouble were noticeable when PS4 beated Xbone with it discounted Titanfall bundle.
In US Xbox was always competitive, yes. That is not worth mentioning.