Incoming announcement on Xbox titles future exclusivity and publishing

[Deto]

Xbox fans share a bit of the responsibility for Xbox failing. They do a lot of shit talking and posturing at the expense of buying and playing games.

Xbox fans don't care about reality, sooner or later this would have consequences.

I remember when they supported the "movie, 4 hours of gameplay" narrative about Uncharted 4.

Quantum Break came out, this one really with 4 hours of gameplay and full of movies, xbox fanboys left the xone on at night to count as if it were hours of gameplay, take a screenshot and go out LYING on the internet that the game took 80 hours to be finished

What is happening with the Xbox today is a consequence of this Xbox fan behavior. Sect fanatic behavior, where the "leader" is "infallible", "omnipresent" and "omnipotent"

 

[Deto]

Its on par with their brand. Wait for E3, wait for the tools, wait for RDNA2.
Now wait for Sarah in spring.

Typical behavior of a religious fanatic from an apocalyptic sect
"expect the end of the world in 20xx, get ready"

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

I game on both consoles. To think that some gamers because of sheer loyalty to one console will never get to play some absolute gems is stupidity. I've always been against exclusives. Now I would never see Nintendo offer anything on other consoles. But why not allow Xbox and playstation be cross platform with timed exclusives.

Gaming is at a point with mass layoffs and costs going through the roof. To outlay those costs you need to sell more games or increase the price of games. Whatever happens it will cause outrage. Starfield for example, how many copies will it sell on playstation. Sales saves jobs.

Personally with timed exclusives I'd still buy both consoles to play day 1. I wouldn't be harsh on Microsoft over it, I'd give them the credit a move like that deserves. It's bringing gaming to everyone, allows those with the means to only game on one console explore everything across two ecosystems. If it's a one way street where Sony says we will take and not offer you would have to question Sony's choice more than Microsoft's.

Similar to accelerating a PC porting strategy of shorter windows for big marquee non-GaaS 1P AAA games, or doing them Day 1 (or potentially even sticking with the 2-year window several ports have established), timed exclusivity of same games to then get ported to Xbox would destroy a huge chunk of the appeal and value proposition of PlayStation consoles to a sizable chunk of hardcore and core enthusiasts customers.

It's an inherently bad idea that gains nothing for PlayStation and gains a lot for Xbox, and just actively damages what selling appeal PlayStation systems would have to a good portion of typically highest ARPU spenders in their own ecosystem. Costs for AAA game production can be resolved through other means, such as (sensible) use of AI technologies in various parts of the development process, avoiding expensive licenses, less use of Hollywood actors/actresses and writers, etc. Which are things all devs & pubs can take on at amounts that work best for their targets.

If any platform holder is in a position where they would seriously need to consider a strategy of timed exclusives for eventual ports of all games to other platforms both PC & console, or Day 1 even for most of their 1P across the same, it's Microsoft. Sony will still have the MLBs and one-off things like a Destiny or Marathon show up on Xbox hardware, but that's about it. And Nintendo? Well, don't expect anything. Those two have shown they can grow their console businesses while still centralizing as much control within a stack they have proprietary ownership over as possible; Microsoft have failed to demonstrate the same for Xbox.

 

[Gods&Monsters]

Basically they are going to be 3rd-party but they are going to act benevolent like it's never been done before. We're going to release on all the platforms. Yeah that's called Ubisoft and EA, bitch

All these games you bought were already planned multiplatforms anyway.

 

[Loy310]

Also, that OT is absolute disaster LMFAO . That fuckin eksbotz mod judge betrayed his own people, banning most of eksbotz lieutenants including montresor, whom I respected the least because of some of his banger posts including his latest one .

what ot is this? cant find it on the site

 

[Bryank75]

@Bryank75, What was the major thing that you said you had heard that would melt minds regarding this topic?

Well I wouldn't say "melt minds" , unless you're someone unprepared for what is obviously coming.

 

[Infinity]

Xbox will be forced out of the market when no one buys their consoles, as PlayStation will offer PS exclusives, Xbox games, and the most third-party games.

i thought you said xbox isnt making another next gen console?

 

[Would_you_kindly]

Basically they are going to be 3rd-party but they are going to act benevolent like it's never been done before. We're going to release on all the platforms. Yeah that's called Ubisoft and EA, bitch

All these games you bought were already planned multiplatforms anyway.

Now we know hi fi rush is coming to switch it confirms they also stole that game from Nintendo users not just playstation I already knew it would've been on switch but now there's proof lol

 

[Danja]

Wasn't in firts 2 years. And you didn't know that surely. Easy to say it know, huh. Also, Xbox Series was good in first 2 years because XSS.

The Series Started out stronger than the Xbox One because again they launched everywhere, Covid boosted them, PS5 shortages helped at first. Xbox One started out strong but again they launched in like 13 markets, so comparing them launch aligned is tricky. Series was able to amass a larger install base lead over Xbox one, but Xbox One had more consistent sales when the first 3 years are aligned.

Actually no. PS4 already gained a big worldwide advantage in 2014. First trouble were noticeable when PS4 beated Xbone with it discounted Titanfall bundle.
In US Xbox was always competitive, yes. That is not worth mentioning.

And I specifically mentioned Xbox One was more competitive in North America with the PS4 compared to the PS5 vs Series... I don't see what Worldwide sales has to do with anything here.?

Stop quoting my comments if you're gonna deliberately take things out of context.

In 2014... PS4 sold 4.6 million in the US compared to 4.3 million for the XB1

2015 - PS4 sold 5.7 million compared to 4.9 million for XB1

2016 - PS4 sold 5.1 million compared to Xbox 4.7 million.

So don't quote my comment telling me what I mentioned was irrelevant when my original comment stated it seems people forgot how well XB1 was selling the first 3 years and it was giving PS4 good competition in North America.

Series is coming off the XB1 era with deflated momentum anyone paying attention could tell it was never gonna match the previous console.

 

[Heisenberg007]

i thought you said xbox isnt making another next gen console?

Yep, that is still my theory. I'm not saying anything different.

Xbox makes their games multiplatform > people stop buying Series S and X even more > They do not release a next-gen console.

 

[Heisenberg007]

They can exit the console race and still make hardware. Which was what I'm trying to get at. They still will make some sort of hardware to sustain Game Pass as long as they keep the service going.

Oh absolutely. I bet they will make Xbox controllers even if they don't have an Xbox console. And they may also create a Cloud machine (the canceled Project Keystone).

What the majority of us mean is that they will be squeezed out of the traditional high-end under-the-TV console market.

 

[Infinity]

Yep, that is still my theory. I'm not saying anything different.

Xbox makes their games multiplatform > people stop buying Series S and X even more > They do not release a next-gen console.

we already have numerous sources that keep saying the same thing. A next gen Xbox is coming. So you're likely wrong. They're only making some games multi plat based on what the leakers/insiders have said. Their is no official word on it yet.

 

[Nhomnhom]

Basically they are going to be 3rd-party but they are going to act benevolent like it's never been done before. We're going to release on all the platforms. Yeah that's called Ubisoft and EA, bitch

All these games you bought were already planned multiplatforms anyway.

That's called SEGA.

Yep, that is still my theory. I'm not saying anything different.

Xbox makes their games multiplatform > people stop buying Series S and X even more > They do not release a next-gen console.

As things stand, Xbox Series is somehow tracking behind the Xbox One. The "big games" they have on the way are Hellblade 2 and Avowed.

On top of that now we have them releasing their own games on PS5 and Nintendo Switch.

What could possibly happen now for them to gain any momentum for next gen? Most Sony internal Studios don't have a single game announced and pretty much all MS studios have a game announced or shown and yet nobody cares and it's selling like shit. Starfield, their game of the decade has already release and sales of their hardware only got worse.

There is nowhere for them to go with Xbox consoles.

 

[Danja]

Oh absolutely. I bet they will make Xbox controllers even if they don't have an Xbox console. And they may also create a Cloud machine (the canceled Project Keystone).

What the majority of us mean is that they will be squeezed out of the traditional high-end under-the-TV console market.

I get that but as long as Game Pass is there I believe they will need an Xbox Hardware to sustain it. Which was what I mentioned in the comment you quoted. That Xbox will always need hardware. I don't see them going full streaming either.

 

[Deleted member 223]

All those posts seem like PR damage control. They're so contrived that even the person who wrote them doesn't know what exactly it means.

Expect the shills to kick into PR mode in the next few days, to tell us how this'll be great for xbox.

It's guaranteed and required for them to try to spin this in a positive way. You better believe the bullshit will be in high gear.

The question is whether they get drowned by buillshit detector sirens or not. They def gonna try to "manage perception".... they're never gonna say "we're done" "go buy a PS5".

 

[Nhomnhom]

I get that but as long as Game Pass is there I believe they will need an Xbox Hardware to sustain it. Which was what I mentioned in the comment you quoted. That Xbox will always need hardware. I don't see them going full streaming either.

So they'll keep Xbox hardware alive so they can sustain a service that is making them bleed? It makes no sense, Gamepass was meant to save Xbox, not the other way around.

If Gamepass is only viable on Xbox hardware then it is not viable at all.

 

[Danja]

So they'll keep Xbox hardware alive so they can sustain a service that is making them bleed? It makes no sense, Gamepass was meant to save Xbox, not the other way around.

If Gamepass is only viable on Xbox hardware then it is not viable at all.

And where did I say that? Game Pass has millions of subs on Xbox hardware even if they exit the console race I don't see why it's so hard to grasp they can still offer people an hardware to sustain their libraries and keep their ecosystem/ online stores going on their own closed platform.

It's not rocket science

 

[Cool hand luke]

we already have numerous sources that keep saying the same thing. A next gen Xbox is coming. So you're likely wrong. They're only making some games multi plat based on what the leakers/insiders have said. Their is no official word on it yet.

We have copesauce, not sources.

For those who can't see where this is going

• Xbox is going to try quell their lunatics with soft language, but they will confirm their 3rd party strategy shortly.
• All their games will eventually be multiplatform and Xbox as a hardware platform will not exist.
• Xbox Series will not even sniff 40 mil. 30 mil is a stretch at this point.
• Sony Too!!! is another copesauce fantasy. It will never happen, and you can guarantee that because there will be no Xbox to port to.

Also, Peter wishing that Xbox tried to keep COD exclusive by default and that regulators should have forced them to hand it out, or that Sony should reject Xbox games instead of allowing Xbox's unconditional surrender, is emblematic of the lack of business acumen Xbox fans have.

 

[Nhomnhom]

And where did I say that? Game Pass has millions of subs on Xbox hardware even if they exit the console race I don't see why it's so hard to grasp they can still offer people an hardware to sustain their libraries and keep their ecosystem/ online stores going on their own closed platform.

It's not rocket science

So they'll live console to offer people a hardware to play their games? Are you talking about cloud?

You guys always make the assumption that no matter what Gamepass is going to work when in reality no matter what they have done Gamepass has failed.

Gamepass is what killed Xbox console business, in exchange for nothing. Their PC gaming and cloud gaming business are even more pathetic than Xbox.

MS question now is how can they run Activision + Blizzard + Bethesda + MS Studios without bleeding money every quarter. Last quarter even with a CoD release there was a massive net loss from their gaming business.

 

[Infinity]

We have copesauce, not sources.

For those who can't see where this is going

• Xbox is going to try quell their lunatics with soft language, but they will confirm their 3rd party strategy shortly.
• All their games will eventually be multiplatform and Xbox as a hardware platform will not exist.
• Xbox Series will not even sniff 40 mil. 30 mil is a stretch at this point.
• Sony Too!!! is another copesauce fantasy. It will never happen, and you can guarantee that because there will be no Xbox to port to.

Reliable leakers is not cope sauce. their is also no official word on any games going multi plat. But leakers/insiders have said some games are going multiplat. Is that also cope sauce?