Internet required to pair disc drive with new PS5

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It’s because the drive key has to be registered to the motherboard ID for DRM purposes. Since the new PS5 is modular, they can’t pre-register the key without it slowing production down by adding another step, and if a system got the drive accidentally switched before shipping, it would be misregistered permanently.

Making it a one-time process on system setup is the least painful way for Sony and the consumer, and likely won’t even be noticed except by those who buy the system without a drive and get the drive later.
yeah I know about drive-motherboard key.
This is how I bricked my first 360 when "pirating it" I forgot to back the key from the drive before flashing it
 
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Many are speculating this could be to block 3rd party disc drives.
I'd say that for security reasons (using a non official drive to exploit the console and run pirated games) they want to ensure it's using an official disc drive.

Oh dear... Let's hope the rumored Pro model has a disc drive included.
I bet the Pro will share this same detachable disc drive.

Meaning, if you have a PS5 Slim+disc drive won't need to buy PS5 Pro+disc drive: you'll be able to buy only the PS5 Pro and use the disc drive you had from the PS5 Slim.
 
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That's really strange....
I understand it's only once but still. that's not the point of physical console lol
The one that comes with the drive you don't need to. This is the optional version
 
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Wait a minute, why would someone who gets an all-digital console be concerned about connecting it to the internet?
 
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And potential physical converts, or all-digital converts who realize their mistake down the line and want to go back or those who bought the wrong sku. However small that pot of consumers may be - which is relatively small. The pro is that they have an option as opposed to no option (see the competition). The cons are, well, it's a digital prison - and all that it entails.
 

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Best solution is to not offer a digital-only console (which requires the patch in disc-drive). Problem solved, no negative PR, or spin for that matter.

But we all know deep down the reason we get digital-only consoles is cause Sony wants to fatten its bottomline, just like MS - by fully closing the software distribution pipeline... at the expense of the freedom you get with physical media and the markets outside Sony or MS's control. Just cause Sony doesn't push it hard like MS doesn't mean they don't co-op it - "fast follower" suits them well.

Bargaining 101.

Do not damage control for Sony here regardless of the merits of the complaint one way or another. Solution imo is simple: Kill the digital-only sku. Won't do that? Enjoy the BS then...

Proponents of physical media, whether they're discs or sd-memory cards need to stop playing argumentative games with folks online on this topic. Irreconcilable positions - so, stake your ground, and buy physical whenever you can.
The problem with this position is that physical media for delivering digital content is practically an anachronism at this point and it basically only exists on these game consoles.

No one delivers bits to phones, or computers, with a hunk of plastic anymore. No one. It is is also MUCH more efficient to do it over the network vs. manufacturing plastic boxes to hold those hunks of plastic, and then ship those all over the world via plane/boat and then fleets of trucks.

You can prefer physical. I get it. But these also are not snes/genesis systems where all you need to do is slap a cart into a console and you are good to go for all time. These machines and games need the internet anyway, for the most part. If you think your "physical" games are going to save you from some digital tyranny, I kinda think you're in for a rude awakening.

Like I said, the entire rest of the world has moved on in almost every case aside from console games. Is it good for "game preservation"? No, but old consoles stop getting manufactured too. So where is the preservation for those?

Bottom line, trying to cling to physical is a losing battle. At some point before you know it, it will be completely gone.
 

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The problem with this position is that physical media for delivering digital content is practically an anachronism at this point and it basically only exists on these game consoles.

No one delivers bits to phones, or computers, with a hunk of plastic anymore. No one. It is is also MUCH more efficient to do it over the network vs. manufacturing plastic boxes to hold those hunks of plastic, and then ship those all over the world via plane/boat and then fleets of trucks.

You can prefer physical. I get it. But these also are not snes/genesis systems where all you need to do is slap a cart into a console and you are good to go for all time. These machines and games need the internet anyway, for the most part. If you think your "physical" games are going to save you from some digital tyranny, I kinda think you're in for a rude awakening.

Like I said, the entire rest of the world has moved on in almost every case aside from console games. Is it good for "game preservation"? No, but old consoles stop getting manufactured too. So where is the preservation for those?

Bottom line, trying to cling to physical is a losing battle. At some point before you know it, it will be completely gone.
Physical tend to be a lot cheaper the digital. Also the lack if 3rd party sellers fir playstation is a problem as well
 

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It won't

If there is money to be made it won't go away
It would be a long term bet but I would bet you quite a bit of money consoles will be going all digital in 1-2 generations, likely 1.

Best Buy is getting rid of physical media. Other retailers won't be far behind.

We've seen the leaked XSX update with no disc drive.

Sony is making a new PS5 right now that has no drive, basically by default (it's an add on, even if its in the box for some).

You cannot buy physical media for your computer games/software or your phones.

Manufacturers prefer digital by a large margin for many reasons.

I promise you, physical console games will go away.
 
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It’s because the drive key has to be registered to the motherboard ID for DRM purposes. Since the new PS5 is modular, they can’t pre-register the key without it slowing production down by adding another step, and if a system got the drive accidentally switched before shipping, it would be misregistered permanently.

Making it a one-time process on system setup is the least painful way for Sony and the consumer, and likely won’t even be noticed except by those who buy the system without a drive and get the drive later.
No, they should have done this at the plant.

There may be reasons, but given the complexity of everything else that is going on... If they can make a PS5 at all, they can manage this one.
 

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It would be a long term bet but I would bet you quite a bit of money consoles will be going all digital in 1-2 generations, likely 1.

Best Buy is getting rid of physical media. Other retailers won't be far behind.

We've seen the leaked XSX update with no disc drive.

Sony is making a new PS5 right now that has no drive, basically by default (it's an add on, even if its in the box for some).

You cannot buy physical media for your computer games/software or your phones.

Manufacturers prefer digital by a large margin for many reasons.

I promise you, physical console games will go away.
I think that the PS6 may not even have an optional disc drive, given how people are embracing downloaded games I don't see physical media being relevant for much longer.

Sadly... But I have gone over 90% digital on the PS4 and did not even bother to get the disc based PS5.

With the kids playing fortnite and roblox there really is no reason to force them into buying disc drives.
 
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