These guys just want to brush everything under the rug and act like everything is fine.... You are completely right and they won't catch on until it's too late. Don't let these guys gaslight you into thinking you're wrong or paranoid or crazy.
Kai Cenat is streaming Bloodborne to call attention to fan demand for a PC and PS5 port
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Sorry don't really see this scenario playing out the way you think as ecosystems matter in a digital space to an extent. If Sony blocks their games and all Cross-play from all these machines then what?
They can pull out of steam at any given time as well. Sony have made bad moves but the way some of you think they are just idiots who aren't aware what's also happening is crazy. Steam deck hasn't even sold 4 million as yet, Valve will be burning a shit ton of capital just to enter a space just to sell a box without true exclusives outside of stuff that caters to an audience that supposedly hates consoles
Xbox will exist next gen! Yes they'll push to have storefronts on their box but again it's not gonna change much because storefronts isn't why console gamers but consoles. Who is gonna care about this?! Steam guys? PlayStation guys? Switch players?
1) they haven't refunded everyone who requested it, a lot of people had their refund requests denied and that's what gave even more fire to the conversation and review bomb
2) gfy and get out of the thread if you want to live in an utopian world where people are happy while they watch the platform they spent thousands of dollars over the years dilluting themselfs and making the same stupid decisions that is literally putting their main rival out of the console market
3) my problem is not with people outside of the xbox space buying an Xbox, my problem is with these 20 - 30M that still buy an Xbox being able to play PlayStation games, Xbox plan is to exit the traditional console market but these people won't come to PlayStation and grow its marketshare, because they'll be on a PC Console Hybrid playing PlayStation PC ports, that's my problem with it.
Sure Sony can. I think they will. They have made bad moves before but they normally adjust and come back stronger. Im not doom and gloom over it, I think they will fix it when it happens.
By ecosystem, I just mean they will all be having a console, pc launcher, portable. Well Nintendo wont lol
Valve doesn't need to burn much. 3rd party is doing the work for them, MS too. They will do the same with PC and Steamdeck. Release something small and then have everyone else sell and make the hardware for them.Steam deck hasn't even sold 4 million as yet, Valve will be burning a shit ton of capital just to enter a space just to sell a box without true exclusives outside of stuff that caters to an audience that supposedly hates consoles
MS will be the true prostitute they are and go along with everything and do the same lol.
Steam is growing without exclusives, they are the laziest Platform out of the 4, PS, Nintendo and MS make so many money games then them. Valve got lucky/were smart with Steam OS, they are riding the money wave without doing much.
1) And do you have proof everyone who requested a refund are from affected countries? LOL! Most of the outrage were from people who weren't even affected and in return they fucked over a lot of people in smaller countries who weren't even up in arms. If they aren't from affected regions they aren't entitled to a refund... TOS exists for a reason.
2) LOL! Except I've called out Sony on their shit countless times. Do I need to act like they killed my family like some of y'all and come on this site angry at them Day in, day out? You aren't even saying anything of substance that wasn't said by myself or anyone else from a year ago... A year from now you'll still be typing the same shit... The fact a thread about Bloodborne has devolved into this, just shows you and others need to get a fucking grip. Sony has not ported any Souls game to PC for a reason lmao. And y'all still Hypothetically mad at them...
3) again Hypothetically outrage, what you're mad about hasn't even happened... Seek help
Im not saying its gonna change much as in they are gonna beat Playstation or sell millions.
Im just saying it gonna make Playstation stop porting to competing platforms.
Yes because there's a device signature they can use to block it.
Also why are we suddenly assuming that:
A) Steam is going to support Microsoft's new hybrid devices? No one from Steam commented on it. Not even Phil commented on it (he said Epic and Itch.io in that Polygon interview). The Steam stuff is pure conjecture from Xbox podcasts.
B) Microsoft is going to produce these hybrid devices? They're supposed to come out in 2 years and we still have zero hardware rumors or leaks about it. I don't think they have the greenlight for this plan yet.
C) Microsoft is going to gain any traction with those hybrids? They are absolutely not going to sell them at a good approachable price (we're talking easily $800 and up). The consumer will likely go with either a PS device or a PC
Steam will likely have to deal with Microsoft focusing their attention on them, the Xbox gambit has largely failed, and for all the Windows dominance, Microsoft still doesn't get much out of the gaming space on it.
Microsoft will have come up with a bespoke strategy to gain marketshare for their launchers (Xbox App/Gamepass and Battle.net) and claw back that 20-30%, and that will likely spur Steam into a defensive posture.
does Steam has to support Rog Ally and Legion Go in order for the Steam app to work on these Windows computers? cause that's what they are, Windows computers, and Microsoft is literally making a Windows PC based Console and Portable with the Surface team, what i wanna know is how Sony will be able to stop their games from being playable on a Windows PC if they're porting the games to Windows PCs.
It takes a lot of money to make hardware hence the steam deck is still produced with a cap. Valve making a console is not as simple as you think... They have fostered an environment that allows PC gamers to run wild with their own specs... They also fostered an environment that supports people being cheap when it comes to spending on games... Who are they gonna cater to when they make a fixed spec console? PS gamers? That will have better specs and an edge with exclusives? Steam boys? Casuals? Definitely not Nintendo fans.
I just don't think Valve is a big of a threat as y'all think. It takes money to build consoles that's why y'all don't see companies entering the space
Phew all this discussion lol, You people are ignoring the big elephant in the room- Microsoft and Xbox can't make games worth a shit, xbox can open as many stores as it wants, make as many hardware skus as possible but as long as turdburgers like redfall, forza, starfield release no one is going to buy shit.
And if they make the mistake of letting steam on their devices then they will lose whatever little money they earned from their 30% cuts and get robbed blind by valve, this will only work if xbox charges steam to be on their hardware and good luck getting valve to pay them.
And if they make the mistake of letting steam on their devices then they will lose whatever little money they earned from their 30% cuts and get robbed blind by valve, this will only work if xbox charges steam to be on their hardware and good luck getting valve to pay them.
1) you can search multiple people posting on forums and on social media how even being inside these unsupported countries they had the refund request denied
2) i'll continue to express concerns and talk what needs to be talked, if Xbox is daily mocked here for the same reasons and people are 100% okay with it, why can't they be ok with PlayStation being mocked for the same VALID reasons? just admit you're hypocritical
3) there's no hypothetic situation here, Phil Spencer already stated Steam and Epic will be on the next Xbox and the console is not being made by AMD, it's not a custom made console, it'll be a cheap PC with a Windows operating system in it that will run the Xbox library of games + Steam and Epic Game Store libraries, and when i mean libraries i mean the whole package, knowing how they are, they'll make sure all the games are playable, and to ensure that, they'll make a literal PC in the living room, leaving Sony with no ways to block these games, we're talking about the company that pays MLB for day one GamePass release of Sony's own first party title, so don't act like this is not a thing MS wouldn't be able to do, they make Windows, that's why i have to remember all the time that it was suicidal for Sony put their games on a Microsoft operating system
Alright so let's take a thought experiment: Would the Steam Deck and ROG Ally be a threat to a portable Sony device like a PSP?
(Also yes they can block these devices if they want to).
Then you get posts upon posts from the doomers wailing about how they have value to add when all they do is derail topics to repeat the exact same 3 posts.
Im not saying they are a threat. Im saying they are competition in a technical form. And why porting to them will stop.
Like I said, its gonna be the others that make the “console” Asus, dell and others etc. Its not gonna be like official launched console but more like the Steamdeck clones.
Whether Microsoft starts this wave of hybrids or Valve does a steamdeck 2, its not gonna take much for the new pc/console hybrids. It will probably cater to casuals and new gamers. Not saying its a threat, but its gonna be an alternative but classed as competition either way.
I dont see anyone saying this. Just that they will be classed as competition. Just like Xbox is now, they aren’t close to beating Playstation but they are officially competitonValve the untouchable beast in gaming,.. they will win no matter what...
PlayStation competes directly with Xbox, doesn't it? so if Microsoft releases an Xbox PC for the living room and an Xbox portable PC with all of Sonys PC ports being playable it will have an impact, since you'll be able to play all PC ports of Sony games + Xbox + GamePass, i'm still waiting for you to respond me how Sony would be able to block their games from being played on a Windows PC, cause as far as i know and as far as everything is shaping to be, that's what the next Xbox will be, a PC, they will try to redefine what a console is...
Let's see then!! Yes they are competition and that's never been denied. I don't support Sony putting games on Steam but I understand why they did it. But my comment was about this console steam box... A failure in the making that would serve no one but a small niche of people who just want an additional box lol...