Yeap the movie franchise IP.
The game IP was owned by Atari that used the licensed Sony's movie IP to make the game.
Ghostbusters was published by Atari in US but published by Sony in Europe.
It was never 1st-party.
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The game IP was owned by Atari that used the licensed Sony's movie IP to make the game.
Ghostbusters was published by Atari in US but published by Sony in Europe.
It was never 1st-party.
Ghostbusters PS3 was published by Sony in Europe.
The point is Publishing rights doesn't mean it is 1st-party.
Stellar Blade is not 1st-party... Sony doesn't own the game IP.
Death Stranding, Bloodborne and Spider-man are because Sony's own the game IP.
Lego game IP is owned by Lego.
You guys are trying to made up some spin to make Lego a Sony's game IP.
Lego is a game IP that use licensed IP material for their themes... Horizon is the new licensed theme IP... like Harry Potter, Batman, Star Wars, etc.
PS. I finally found a word to describe the use of licensed IP world, characters, story, etc... theme.
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Should have been a temperory ban IN MY OPINION... Especially seeing there was obvious provocation taking place in here, but oh well.Oh no we lost Voke instead of the toxic and miserable people
Wow, they got his ass up out of hereOh no we lost Voke instead of the toxic and miserable people
good work mods I never provoked him, he did it to himself, got angry over an opinion. I talk to him the same way I talk to you, and you've never talked crazy like that
More like a crusade to make Lego a 1st-party game.
Maybe Sony can listen you and finally buy Lego to prove you right.
He actually played games and talked about them instead of making lists and complaining it's not long enough without playing what's availableWow, they got his ass up out of here
And there are more problematic people on this site who are obvious and blatant r@cistsHe actually played games and talked about them instead of making lists and complaining it's not long enough without playing what's available
He was a trouble maker. Those “go with the wind” people like him are bad for gaming discourseHe actually played games and talked about them instead of making lists and complaining it's not long enough without playing what's available
At least Banana was banned yesterday as well, he was one of the worse racists
Sony publishing a game -so having its publishing rights- on PlayStation means it's a first party IP.
But the game in general, not when they're just helping distribute a 3rd party game in a specific region (as was the case when Sony published/distrubuted let's say Destiny 1 in Japan, or that Ghostbusters PS2/PS3 game in EU).
When a first party game has a lead dev studio not owned by the platform holder, that first party game sometimes is also called second party. That is the case of Stellar Blade, as Shift Up said to their investors and Korean authorities:
Being a first or third party only means if the game publisher is the platform holder of the platform where it's being published or not. Doesn't matter if they own the IP or not. In this case, Stellar Blade is a first party game (and second), even if Shift Up owns the IP.
Uncharted games are 1st party games. Marvel's Spider-Man is a first party game. Stellar Blade is a first party game. Lego Horizon is a first party game.
In other page that document Shift Up also explains the difference between publishing/being the publisher and the IP/being the IP owner:
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Publishing rights have nothing to do with being 1st-party.Sony publishing a game -so having its publishing rights- on PlayStation means it's a first party IP.
But the game in general, not when they're just helping distribute a 3rd party game in a specific region (as was the case when Sony published/distrubuted let's say Destiny 1 in Japan, or that Ghostbusters PS2/PS3 game in EU).
When a first party game has a lead dev studio not owned by the platform holder, that first party game sometimes is also called second party. That is the case of Stellar Blade, as Shift Up said to their investors and Korean authorities:
Being a first or third party only means if the game publisher is the platform holder of the platform where it's being published or not. Doesn't matter if they own the IP or not. In this case, Stellar Blade is a first party game (and second), even if Shift Up owns the IP.
Uncharted games are 1st party games. Marvel's Spider-Man is a first party game. Stellar Blade is a first party game. Lego Horizon is a first party game.
In other page that document Shift Up also explains the difference between publishing/being the publisher and the IP/being the IP owner:
Sony has publishing rights to Stellar Blade… the game is still 3rd-party exclusive.
And the use of second-party is to 1st-party IP being developed by a 3rd-party developer… Stellar Blade is a 3rd-party IP developed by a 3rd-party … so it will never be 2nd-party.
The most recent case of 2nd-party should be Death Stranding.
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I proved this wrong in the previous post with an official legal document from the Stellar Blade developer claiming that Stellar Blade is a second party game. Which means it's a first party game.
And it's a first party game and second party game because Sony publishes (meaning they have the publishing rights) it -even if Sony doesn't own the IP- while being developed by a 3rd party studio (3rd party studio means the studio isn't a Sony owned team).
The most recent 2nd party game is Rise of the Ronin, developed by Team Ninja and published by SIE.
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Sony publishing a game -so having its publishing rights- on PlayStation means it's a first party IP.
But the game in general, not when they're just helping distribute a 3rd party game in a specific region (as was the case when Sony published/distrubuted let's say Destiny 1 in Japan, or that Ghostbusters PS2/PS3 game in EU).
When a first party game has a lead dev studio not owned by the platform holder, that first party game sometimes is also called second party. That is the case of Stellar Blade, as Shift Up said to their investors and Korean authorities:
Being a first or third party only means if the game publisher is the platform holder of the platform where it's being published or not. Doesn't matter if they own the IP or not. In this case, Stellar Blade is a first party game (and second), even if Shift Up owns the IP.
Uncharted games are 1st party games. Marvel's Spider-Man is a first party game. Stellar Blade is a first party game. Lego Horizon is a first party game.
In other page that document Shift Up also explains the difference between publishing/being the publisher and the IP/being the IP owner:
Publishing rights and First Party are 2 different things.
First Party Developer - OWNED by Sony.
First Party Game - OWNED by Sony.
Death Stranding and Bloodborne are First Party games cause they are owned by Sony.
Who developed and published is irrelevant. 505 published Death Stranding on PC.
Stellar Blade isn’t First Party in any way. Owned by Shiftup and developed by them with help from Sony. Published by Sony.
The publisher/developer of a game isn’t relevant in determining First or Third Party cause you get multiple publishers/developers of a single game.
It is Ownership.
Spiderman is technically not a First Party Game.
It is Owned by Marvel. Developed by a third party now first party. Published by Sony who have publishing rights and pay Marvel royalties.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Not only Sony, the whole gaming industry always called first party games those published by the platform holders (even if not developed by them) and 3rd party those published by companies not owned by the platform holder. Independently of who owns the IP or who receives royalties from the revenue generated by the game.
Stellar Blade is a first party because Sony publishes it, even if Shift Up owns its IP. And is also second party, because it's a first party game but the lead dev studio isn't owned by the platform holder, in this case Sony.
Marvel's Spider-Man is 100% a first party game too because Sony published it. Sony and everyone else in the industry always refered to it as a first party game and nobody from the industry never said it's a 3rd party game.
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Ownership is everything. Developer and Publisher is irrelevant.
Tell me what is Demon Souls on the PS3? Published by Sony in Japan, Bandai Namco in Europe and Atlus in NA.
What about Death Stranding? Published by Sony on PS4/PS5 and 505 on PC.
Are these games First Party or Third Party?
Marvel Spiderman is published and developed by First Party. Doesn’t mean it is a First Party game.
Sony do not own Spiderman and only have publishing rights.
That’s why it is called Marvels Spiderman NOT Sony’s Spiderman.
A single game can have multiple publishers and developers. You don’t determine 1st Party or 3rd Party using them. It is OWNERSHIP.
Just like a 1st Party developer are those OWNED by Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo.
Same applies for games.
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Let it be, it doesn't make any sense what he is saying. By his definition, the Death Stranding PC version is 3rd party, CoD Japanese version is PlayStation 1st party etc.
Agree complete nonsense from Yurinka.
Publisher and Developer are irrelevant because you can have multiple publishers and developers of a single game.
OWNERSHIP is all that matters.
Death Stranding is 1st party because Sony OWN the Death Stranding IP.
Despite being published by 505 on PC.
Demons Souls is 1st party because Sony OWN the Demons Souls IP.
Even though it was published by Bandai Namco in Europe and Atlus in NA.
Didn't you know Nioh was a first party game? Or some Call of Duty, but in Japan only?
Yuri doing Yuri thingsAnd of course the other insane fanboy thinks he's right because this one is wrong. Spider-Man is a third-party game
what a moron.