LTTP Code Veronica. After 14 years, I finally can say I finished it
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This is a huge misconception, yes CV continues Claire's story after RE2 but Alex Aniel's book "an itchy tasty history of resident evil" clarifies what happened.
RE3 was suppose to be a PS2 game before the PS2 release got pushed.
Capcom didn't want PS fans to wait any longer so they promoted a side game they were making on the PS1 that was in development at the time where you play as Jill going thru raccoon city as RE3: Nemesis.
When RE2's Saturn port was cancelled a sega employee contacted Shinji on making a Resident Evil Dreamcast Game which would get development of Code Veronica Started.
From Day one Code Veronica was always suppose to be a side game for the dreamcast and was in development with multiple RE projects that were going on at the time.
If you don't want to buy the book here is a video that explains it very well:
I recall being super hyped about it and downloading preview videos over slow "high speed" internet back in the Dreamcast days!
Then I got the game and hated the controls (but it was pretty good looking for a Dreamcast game) ... So I did like I always do when I don't like how a game handles, I just dropped out.
Then I got the game and hated the controls (but it was pretty good looking for a Dreamcast game) ... So I did like I always do when I don't like how a game handles, I just dropped out.
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I hope this thread didn't make you day worse, I was just venting on how some of the later stuff in the game frustrated me before I finally finished code veroncia. I didn't mean to make anybody's day worse.
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Just to clear everything up with this thread I am not saying Code Veronica is necessarily a bad game, I just do not like it.
Also I see some people claiming Code Veronica is the real RE3 and RE3 Nemesis was suppose to be a spin off because Sony had a Contract that only allowed for PlayStation to get the first 3 in the trilogy.
That is only Half True.
After the success of RE2 on PS1 Capcom greenlit a whole bunch of projects.
1. RE0 on the N64
2. a Spin off Game set in Raccoon City for PS1
3. Code Veronica for Dreamcast
4. Resident Evil 3 for PS2 (In line with the Contract Sony had for the trilogy appearing only on Playstation)
There were more but these 4 are important to note.
The PS2 got pushed back so Capcom decided to instead change the PS1 spinoff game into Resident Evil 3 Nemesis to hold fans over
Doing more research it seems the Resident Evil 3 for PS2 got changed into RE4 but of course as well all know that game went thru many changes until 2005 when it release exclusively on Gamecube.
RE0 on N64 would get canned but in a sense remade for Gamecube with the same engine RE1 remake was using
Code Veronica was always meant to be a side game made specifically for Dreamcast. It was never developed to be Resident Evil 3 in mind a lot of speculation lead to people theorizing that Sony's contract forced capcom to change Code Veronica from being RE3 but that is not what happened.
Also remember Capcom outsourced a good amount of code veronica to nex entertainment and Tose. I really doubt they would of done that if Code Veronica was meant to be RE3, they probably would of rather outsourced the PS1 spinoff that became RE3: nemesis instead of the real RE3
Also I see some people claiming Code Veronica is the real RE3 and RE3 Nemesis was suppose to be a spin off because Sony had a Contract that only allowed for PlayStation to get the first 3 in the trilogy.
That is only Half True.
After the success of RE2 on PS1 Capcom greenlit a whole bunch of projects.
1. RE0 on the N64
2. a Spin off Game set in Raccoon City for PS1
3. Code Veronica for Dreamcast
4. Resident Evil 3 for PS2 (In line with the Contract Sony had for the trilogy appearing only on Playstation)
There were more but these 4 are important to note.
The PS2 got pushed back so Capcom decided to instead change the PS1 spinoff game into Resident Evil 3 Nemesis to hold fans over
Doing more research it seems the Resident Evil 3 for PS2 got changed into RE4 but of course as well all know that game went thru many changes until 2005 when it release exclusively on Gamecube.
RE0 on N64 would get canned but in a sense remade for Gamecube with the same engine RE1 remake was using
Code Veronica was always meant to be a side game made specifically for Dreamcast. It was never developed to be Resident Evil 3 in mind a lot of speculation lead to people theorizing that Sony's contract forced capcom to change Code Veronica from being RE3 but that is not what happened.
Also remember Capcom outsourced a good amount of code veronica to nex entertainment and Tose. I really doubt they would of done that if Code Veronica was meant to be RE3, they probably would of rather outsourced the PS1 spinoff that became RE3: nemesis instead of the real RE3
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I just don't believe that for a second if I'm being honest. Code Veronica perfectly lines up with Resident Evil 2 canonically and directly takes on the role of the letters from Chris in the S.T.A.R.S. office about striking Umbrella's HQ in Europe, and the ending itself where Claire sets off to go find her brother.
That is exactly what takes place and exactly where you would expect a third game to branch from. Also in comparison to all the other games Code Veronica was massive in scope and length, hardly some side project...
I feel like you're putting too much of yourself into this than what actually lines up with reality.
Man I remember playing this on the Dreamcast and just how incredible it felt to have an "all realtime" RE game on console, instead of the pre rendered backgrounds of the PS1. Definitely felt like a next gen leap. I'm sure it doesn't quite hold up as well given it was still "early days" of 3D gaming in a way, but it was definitely quite the title when it first came out. Great stuff.
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and what if the real RE3 on PS2 would of followed Leon and his story after the Raccoon City incident.
Remember Claire's story is not the only unresolved story from RE2.
Also RE2 literally ends with Leon and Claire saying they were going to end umbrella. Wouldn't the next logical step in the trilogy be taking out umbrella? and leaving the side games to tie up loose ends like what happens to Claire and Chris after the events or RE1 and RE2?
RE1 and RE2 were leading up to taking out umbrella since they were being built as this powerful but incredibly unethical corporation that was letting their creations get out of hand but the next logical step would of been to see what claire and chris were doing on some random island? what about Leon and Jill?
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The very beginning of Code Veronica is Claire infiltrating Umbrella's headquarters in Europe. You're only sent to that 'prison' Island (turns out is not random at all) as a result of being caught. Canonically it's a DIRECT continuation from Resident Evil 2, and a massive step forward in terms of Umbrella lore and world building.
Resident Evil 4 and Leon's continuation is basically a total disconnect from everything that happened before and a huge spanning gap logically from the events of Resident Evil 2.
It seems they had Resident Evil 3 in the bag and sorted out, but had no idea what to do with 4.
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I'm not saying Code Veronica doesn't follow the events of RE2 but is that enough to make it the real RE3 like so many people claim?
There is no official proof that Code Veronica was made with being the Real RE3 in mind. Just theories that some fans made over the years.
Its funny you wrote "I feel like you're putting too much of yourself into this than what actually lines up with reality." but have yet to show me a qoute where capcom claims code veronica was made as RE3 originally.
Like I said in my reply just because Code Veronica follows up Claire's Story from RE2. It's not the only way the real RE3 could of followed up RE2
lastly how did I throw myself into this? I'm showing you what some research RE fans have done (No by me) but your discrediting the work by saying Code Veronica follows RE2 like there Claire is the only thing the exist from the events from RE1 and RE2? Anyway this is all pointless because nobody here has any official claims from anybody that works at Capcom at the time to proof weather or not code veronica was meant to be the real RE3 or not. The only thing I can find about Code Veronica being the RE3 was this old IGN article with no source whatsoever on their claims.
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before anyone calls me biased on where I stand on Code veronica being the real RE3 or not I just refound this video.
Here is the Wesker Report 5 year anniversary DVD (I think came with the PS2 release of Code Veronica X, but I'm not sure, I just know it came out in 2001.) Talking about what happened with RE2 Saturn and Code Veronica Dreamcast
Skip to 12:16 if the video doesn't start there for some reason.
The Director of Code Veronica was about to explain (Before he is interrupted by Shinji Mikami who explains it anyway) that they made Code Veronica as an attempt to get back on to sega consoles as they couldn't port RE2 on Saturn without greatly diminishing the quality and dreamcast was coming out soon anyway/ It probably hurt for sega fans not getting 2 on saturn as RE1 was ported to saturn with extra content as well I believe.
Here is the Wesker Report 5 year anniversary DVD (I think came with the PS2 release of Code Veronica X, but I'm not sure, I just know it came out in 2001.) Talking about what happened with RE2 Saturn and Code Veronica Dreamcast
The Director of Code Veronica was about to explain (Before he is interrupted by Shinji Mikami who explains it anyway) that they made Code Veronica as an attempt to get back on to sega consoles as they couldn't port RE2 on Saturn without greatly diminishing the quality and dreamcast was coming out soon anyway/ It probably hurt for sega fans not getting 2 on saturn as RE1 was ported to saturn with extra content as well I believe.
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She is so beautiful in RE1 REmake and RE3 Remake.Jill is best girl anyway
Its funny how everybody is saying code veronica is the real RE3 because it follows up on Claire after RE2 but that would mean RE3: Nemesis is the real RE2 because it follows up on Jill after RE1!
Also Code Veronica doesn't even have to happen because it turns out at the beginning of the game Leon could of just emailed Chris and save Claire the trouble of going to Europe in the first place lol
I guess it depends on how important you view Chris as well. Jill, Chris and maybe Leon will always be the face of RE to me.
So now that you've beaten CV does that mean you've beaten the whole main series + Revelations games?
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I first played RE0 in early 2007 then beat it in august 2017
I played RE1 Deadly Silence for the first time on November 15th 2016 and beat it early December 2016
I first played RE1 Remake in late 2006 and beat it around that time maybe early 2007
I played RE2 on N64 around November 2014 and beat it on December 2nd, 2014 I think
I played re2 remake in early 2020 and beat it in early 2020, I beat it again on August 6th 2022
I played RE3 Nemesis for the first time in October of 2014 but started a new save file on April 2nd, 2020 and beat it that day
I first playebdre3 remake on April 2nd 2020 and beat it on April 2nd 2020
I first Played RE4 on October 26th, 2006 (Technically was able to load the title screen on October 24th 2006 but the used copy I got from gamestop didn't have the first disc readable so I saved up money for two days and returned the used copy and got the new copy on 10.26.06) and beat it around that time
I first Played RE5 on March 14th, 2009 and beat it on March 16th, 2009
I first Played RE6 on October 2nd 2012 and beat all campaigns shortly after and even got the platinum trophy on October 20th, 2012 (Barely touched it again until the remastered version came out.)
I first Played RE7 on January 24th, 2017 and beat it shortly after
I first played RE8: Village on May 7th, 2021 and beat it shortly after and on village of shadows difficulty too
I first Played Revelations 1 on WIi U on June 20th, 2013 and beat it shortly after
I first Played Revelations 2 on 360 on 10/26/16 and beat it shortly after (I started the demo on October 24th, 2016)
I started Code Veronica on PS4/PS5 on August 5th, 2022 and finished it on August 8th, 2022
I also played and unlocked every thingn on mercinaries 3ds
and need to find my PS3 eyecamera so I can play Umbrella Chronicles and Darkside Chronicles
and I need to finish Umbrella Corps as well
i never played Gaiden, Operation Raccoon City, Gun Survivior games, Outbreak file 1 and 2, and any other spinoff i missed
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You're all good man, thanks for asking. Real life's gone shit anyway regardless of games, so the reading and debating is a nice distraction, as is the weed lol. Though I do find it sad one thing i have to keep telling myself just make it through Aug, got tlou p1 and Factions right around the corner. And now ive probably made your day worse lol.
That doesn’t fit Capcom marketing the game.
When Capcom announced the true sequel for RE2 they showed images of Code Veronica… before the change in names they are saying the true sequel will be on Dreamcast and always teased Code Veronica.
After they changed the name of the PS2 spin-off they continued saying and marketing the true sequel as being Code Veronica.
Code Veronica was always the sequel of RE, aka RE3, to Capcom.
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You got photos of this true sequel to re2 announcement featuring code veronica? I have no recollection of this event or marketing?
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I'm 40 years old... I was a hardcore gamer literally in 1997-1998.
Just because internet was not a thing and you won't find news from that time the Capcom marketing was clear about which game was the true sequel.
Before they officially announced RE: Code Veronica at TGS 1998 (October) they teased several times the sequel of the franchise with pictures of well Code Veronica. Even after RE3: Nemesis got announced in March 1999 they continued to saying the true sequel was Code Veronica and RE3 was not a sequel to the franchise.
Ohhhh but you will say but there is a RE game being developed... yes but that project never get the light of sun... it was scraped before start the development to console... it never become anything and that happens before Code Veronica and/or Nemesis announcement... side note even names like Kazuhiro Aoyama, Shinji Mikami, and some high executives were not happy with the decision... they wanted Code Veronica to be named RE3 and not Nemesis...
What is RE3: Nemesis to the franchise? Nothing... it add nothing.
What is RE: Code Veronica to the franchise? The game that build the story/plot as we know today... it is canon and the key events for the overall story in the follow games.
CV was unlucky to be released in a dead machine and for that it was not know to most fans and threaded like the other RE.
It is really a sad situation.
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Say this is true. With out those photos before code veronicas reveal how do we know for sure those photos were code veronica? With so many resident evil projects going on at the time are you 100%sure from memory alone those photos were code veronica? I'm only 28 so 12 years younger than you but can still find articles from the late 90s so somewhere out there should be some magazine clipping or advertisement of code veronica being the true sequel to re2. Also you seem to be wrong on code veronicas reveal, it was officially revealed n August of 1998 and tgs 1998 was in March and October that year.
Appearantly the real re3 was directed by Kamiya in 1998 and would feature hunk on a ship trying to collect a g sample. That got scrapped l because they couldn't finish on time so promoted a spin off in development on ps1 to re3 nemesis and scrapped the hunk game. https://www.vg247.com/resident-evil-3-nemesis-began-life-as-a-spin-off
At no point does anyone say code veronica was developed as re3 in mind.
Even shinji Mikami said that code veronica was made because they couldnt port re2 to Saturn so they came up with the idea of making a new game for Sega fans. Also this theoretical sony contract for re1 - re3 does not have any substance evidence of actually existing. Shinji Mikami did not was the ps1 spinoff to be re3 but decided to go along when people brought up to him sales wise calling it re3 would make the most sense since the ps1 was a super successful console. No offical source ever mentions a contract anywhere from sony
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