Is that not the same site that said "don't read too much in PS4 10 million milestone"?
March 2023 NPD, PS5 has outsold PS4 in the same time period (29 months), PS5 best-selling in both units and dollar sales, Switch #2, Xbox #3
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All he had to do was to project the gap created in the first year over the rest of the generation.Enjoy
PS4 sales officially pass 30 million
"Fastest and strongest sales in PlayStation history," says Sony.arstechnica.com
Read and laugh!
7.5 x 8 = 60m
Would still have underestimated the gap by about give or take 10m, but would've been a much better prediction.
If we do that same calculation now it looks like PS5 has increased it's lead by about a 8.5m gap while supply constrained for the most time. So PS5 should end up adding another 50m to that lead, resulting in a 70m gap by the end of the generation.
PS5 120m, Xbox Series 50m. This might be giving Xbox too much credit tho given their decreasing sales before the console is even 3 years old.
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*6 years (from PS2 launch to PS3) vs 14 (PS3 to PS5), and of course this comparison conveniently and completely neglects the fact that Sony's hardware dominance extended beyond PS3's launch with PS2 sales, but that was expected.4 years compared to 17, the 17 years is an aberration.
And correct.
The aberration was driven by poor decisions on Sony's part that resulted in the PS3 and took an additional gen to recover from.
I'm not even sure what are you trying to say here...4 years compared to 17, the 17 years is an aberration.
The only time Xbox was ahead PlayStation in US was at 360 gen
PS2, PS4 and PS5 were all PS > Xbox in US.
My argument was about market share which is what Welfare is objecting to, but again, he's taking a myopic view of an aberrational result. The status quo has always been Sony on top. The extent is debatable, but not that debatable.I'm not even sure what are you trying to say here...
The only time Xbox was ahead PlayStation in US was at 360 gen
PS2, PS4 and PS5 were all PS > Xbox in US.
He is saying on InstallBase that Series X is not avaiabled in US to buy (false info) and when confronted with Amazon and own Microsoft Store links in stock he dodge saying the Forza Bundle doesn't count
Oh FFS. Bundles absolutely count. They also have a conspiracy theory running that China is buying all the PS5s in Japan because PS software isn't dominating the charts. Bunch of silly people.He is saying on InstallBase that Series X is not avaiabled in US to buy (false info) and when confronted with Amazon and own Microsoft Store links in stock he dodge saying the Forza Bundle doesn't count
Just when I think resetera finally has it through their heads that the Series S is a failure, you have every poster coming out of the woodworks acting like it was a good idea and that the abysmal sales are "just fine".
www.resetera.com
Jim Ryan, 2020: "Creating a special low priced, reduced spec console is something that has not had great results in the past.”
Two and a half years ago Sony's Jim Ryan made the following statements. https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/series-s-style-consoles-have-not-had-great-results-says-playstation-boss/ And we had this thread...
www.resetera.com
I remember when this gen started they thought Playstation was going to get destroyed in sales because the Series S was cheaper and the Series X had slightly more horsepower.Just when I think resetera finally has it through their heads that the Series S is a failure, you have every poster coming out of the woodworks acting like it was a good idea and that the abysmal sales are "just fine".
Jim Ryan, 2020: "Creating a special low priced, reduced spec console is something that has not had great results in the past.”
Two and a half years ago Sony's Jim Ryan made the following statements. https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/series-s-style-consoles-have-not-had-great-results-says-playstation-boss/ And we had this thread...
Of course the S is a fine console. If the criteria is whether it boots and plays games then it's a fine console. Expecting folks not to double down and not play stupid is not a reasonable expectation. It's literally the human condition playing out. Those engaging in that thread understand perfectly well what sort of reactions that OP is after and they're smartly denying him that so as not to give in to the narrative.... a factual one unlike many. Whether reality is favorable to that game of fake appearances is inconsequential to the bubble they wish to create for themselves. This all happens in mostly concious-of-the-fact individuals playing the little game.
"As long as I deny OP's alternative view, no matter how close to facts it may be, my view is the reality, as far as I'm concerned". It's really simple with sheep, not rocket science. We have our share of idiots playing that game here, who stick out like a sore thumb unlike at era where they're a dime a dozen. This plays out daily on a variety of topics, from sport discussions, politics, to everyday normal exchanges of views so seeing it play out in polarizing gaming topics where tribe affiliation plays a role is almost guaranteed.
To deal with them the solution is always simple: Keep pushing it to their faces, expose their stupidity, and don't buy into their BS nor accept it - ever.
"As long as I deny OP's alternative view, no matter how close to facts it may be, my view is the reality, as far as I'm concerned". It's really simple with sheep, not rocket science. We have our share of idiots playing that game here, who stick out like a sore thumb unlike at era where they're a dime a dozen. This plays out daily on a variety of topics, from sport discussions, politics, to everyday normal exchanges of views so seeing it play out in polarizing gaming topics where tribe affiliation plays a role is almost guaranteed.
To deal with them the solution is always simple: Keep pushing it to their faces, expose their stupidity, and don't buy into their BS nor accept it - ever.
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Yet he cosigned Michael Pachter's BS about PlayStation being dead in 10 years due to this deal. Destin is one of the most dishonest zealots out there. It's so clear that these guys are looking at this ABK deal to be their savior.
I didn't say that. Why can't you people ever quote me with my own words.He is saying on InstallBase that Series X is not avaiabled in US to buy (false info) and when confronted with Amazon and own Microsoft Store links in stock he dodge saying the Forza Bundle doesn't count
The Forza bundle is barely in stock. In fact, it's the highest it's been in weeks in the Amazon charts. Last week it was hovering out of the top 100 and is now #64. Are you going to say demand has increased, or has more supply simply come in? It's not available for online purchase at GameStop, you need to go in store.
The $499 non bundled is in more demand. Whenever both SKU are available, the $499 sells more at every retailer. Despite that, it's out of stock everywhere.
And before anyone shows some random third party seller or one store with one unit, no, that isn't a console in stock.
PS2 level sales gap three gens later is not the norm.I'm not even sure what are you trying to say here...
The only time Xbox was ahead PlayStation in US was at 360 gen
PS2, PS4 and PS5 were all PS > Xbox in US.
If you're comparing Xbox to PS2 it would have to start at 2001 and change at 2005 with the 360. PS2 sales after 2005 was a completely different market of consumers.
And this logic works both ways. Xbox fucked up last gen and stunted themselves with a piss poor second half of 2022.
I don't think there will be a retreat but to some degree ABK management take over MS management. Like handle EU marketing.
These idiots re something else. Every single person i know buys platform, console to last them 5+ years, ps5 or xsx. No1 gave S second look when they realised its gimped budget version for 1080. More and more games ll skip xbox cause of S. But they re happy with it. Thank God at least PS s run by competent people.Just when I think resetera finally has it through their heads that the Series S is a failure, you have every poster coming out of the woodworks acting like it was a good idea and that the abysmal sales are "just fine".
Jim Ryan, 2020: "Creating a special low priced, reduced spec console is something that has not had great results in the past.”
Two and a half years ago Sony's Jim Ryan made the following statements. https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/series-s-style-consoles-have-not-had-great-results-says-playstation-boss/ And we had this thread...
So it would start when both consoles were on the market for gen 6 but stop or change when one of the consoles released in gen 7?
Sure, Jan.
Xbox has only had one good generation. That's also an aberration, so no, the performance we're seeing now is expected of them.