I have my doubts as to whether there would be demand for Series X if it was priced where the Series S is these days with how low the perception of Xbox as a brand has fallen over the last few years.
And no, Starfield isn’t going to save XBox.
March 2023 NPD, PS5 has outsold PS4 in the same time period (29 months), PS5 best-selling in both units and dollar sales, Switch #2, Xbox #3
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And no, Starfield isn’t going to save XBox.
I ain't my problem if MS overproduced the Series S. Selling so little and still being supply constrained in their main territory is embarrassing.
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(You don't need to add PS2 in there at all btw - PSP and PS3 beat 360)
People have demonstrated this to you before, but on the resale market, PS5 commanded premium prices when it was out of stock. Xbox is lucky to be offered as high as RRP. That's another indicator of weak demand for Xbox.
Luckily, you'll see this last fortress fall once Microsoft's poor supply chain management finally corrects course and gets the unbundled version on shelves.
You said PlayStation and Xbox, so I corrected you. Same gen home console to same gen home console, Xbox has indeed had one generation where they've topped PlayStation. They've never beaten Sony in hardware sales overall, similar to how Sony has rarely beaten Nintendo in overall hardware sales.
(You don't need to add PS2 in there at all btw - PSP and PS3 beat 360)
What you don't seem to understand is that your behaviour puts you in the section of consumers who simply don't want an Xbox Series X at $559. If there was truly sufficient demand that exceeded supply for the standalone, those bundles would still be selling out - even if the consumer doesn't care about Forza, the premise is that they value the XBX at the $559. Waiting for stock because they don't value it that high is the definition of a lack of demand (at $559).
People have demonstrated this to you before, but on the resale market, PS5 commanded premium prices when it was out of stock. Xbox is lucky to be offered as high as RRP. That's another indicator of weak demand for Xbox.
Luckily, you'll see this last fortress fall once Microsoft's poor supply chain management finally corrects course and gets the unbundled version on shelves.
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It's always "wait for XYZ to happen and then Xbox will destroy Playstation for sure" with these guys. The majority of the time that both consoles have existed together, Playstation has outsold it. MS themselves have admitted it while trying to convince regulators to let them buy as much as they can.
Too bad that the media covers for Xbox, Phil Spencer should be long gone and ridiculed for the terrible job he made.
Imagine Sony going for a period of more than a year with nothing but Pentiment and HiFi Rush to show for. That is just your average Xbox drought. Xbox gets away with being a terrible product.
Xbox strongest market:
- Subscription growth slowing down
- Xbox in last place in units despite having a $259 console
- PS5 ahead of PS4
- Xbox Series doing worse than Xbox One
- PS5 outselling Xbox by more than 2:1
- Big AAA games doing well
I hope they buy Activision just so they run them down to the ground like they did with all their other studios. We can finally live in a world without COD.
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They killed Halo, it's only natural for them to kill CoD next. Hopefully they'll take WoW out of it's misery as well, as someone who really liked early WoW (before expansions) I want it dead.
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Microsoft owns a lot of News sites like MSN, they also pay off senators, this Trillion dollar company is acting like they are the struggling underdogs
Out of all the regulators, the FTC has the least chance of winning this. It's MS' home turf where their bribery, I mean lobbying will do wonders. Unlike the CMA, the FTC has to take MS to court and will more than likely lose.
With how the CMA did a 180 and recent news of them moving even closer to allowing this, the deal has more chance to go through than ever.
The first console ever to be simultaneously supply constrained and readily available for anyone to buy.
Is there any evidence that this supply constraint is due to demand rather than Microsoft intentionally undershipping them or converting into bundles with much lower demand?
It's strange, I just checked the main retailer for consoles in Ireland and they have the Forza bundles in stock in all stores but as in US, it seems the console on its own only has 2 units in the entire country.
Is this a soft price increase?
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Forza bundles are a stealth price increase for sure and explains why standalone consoles became so rare.
gamepass strategy is so bad it even stops bundles from selling lmfao
It's strange how the line between what is of value to someone and what is not is so fragile.... so subjective.
Just checked now
I love the damage limitation attempt though.
As for Europe, I can buy a Series X or S everywhere.
- Bestbuy - Xbox Series S and X bundles available
- Amazon - Xbox Series S and X bundles available
- Costo - Xbox Series X available for members only, Xbox Series S with a couple remotes and headset available for members only
- Target - Fuckin stupid thing requires a ZIP code to check stores, but in the random one I added, you can get a Series X with all-access, and the Series S is readily available in store
I love the damage limitation attempt though.
As for Europe, I can buy a Series X or S everywhere.
It's like the narrative about a potential price cut for a Series S in the future being a big thing. If people don't want to get one for $259 it doesn't matter if it will go down to $200 in the future.
The type or price of the console won’t affect sales in a not available situation because gamers will buy all of them.
What you can say that the supply of Series X is low due some SKU being unavailable time to time.
But if there is any SKU available that means it is a situation that MS is shipping more units than demand needs… sales are not dropping because supply but because gamers are choosing not to buy Xbox (demand issue).
But that is hard concept for InstallBase understand.
IMO Series is reaching market saturation too early… we are just near the 3rd year of console lifetime and COVID even delayed a lot of things.
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They concluded before hand that the Series should allow Xbox to gain market share and then try to fit reality into that narrative. So much for a forum dedicated to game industry analysis if they can't get over making wrong predictions.
I called that the Series was going to be just another One or worse but if it wasn't going like that I would just admit.
Consoles don't sell based in fan fallacies.
Consoles sells when the brand shows they have a good and regular output/delivery of games.
That can takes years to build a brand like that.
But Xbox never build that... since 2010 or so they keep saying "wait for next-year" and sometimes they release a big game and change to "wait for next-year" again.
That "wait for" next-year, next-E3, Bethelda's games hits, Activision Blizzard puschase goes through, etc is a narrative that keep happening since end of 360 gen.
Combined with the "this is the best year/lineup in Xbox history" when they release output is week every year shows why it doesn't sell.
While MS doesn't change that... and for that they need years of regular and good output/delivering... that won't change.
People buy PlayStation and Nintendo because they know they will be happy with what they got.
You can't say the same for Xbox... it is the forever waiting for games.
I think MS wants a easy pass... enter and win the market without make any effort... without working hard to delivery the goods to consumers see Xbox as a viable option.