Microsoft Earnings Q4 2022

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rofif

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" this is still their 2nd highest Q4 ever in gaming"
Lol of course but it means nothing. It's the decrease that matters.
 

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You're right, I have played many of those on the PS4 already, so PS+ just seems like a useless prospect right now 🤷‍♂️
And yet you're hyping these late Xbox ports like they are exclusives and you supposedly replayed them all again this year on GP?? Begging for FF7R and Persona too 🤷‍♂️

Nothing you say to disparage PS+ makes sense.

Also, no mention of your beloved Activision or Ubisoft games? You're the first to rush anytime there is a rumor about one of them coming to GP. Bobby is feeding PS+ every month you must be mad.
 

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And yet you're hyping these late Xbox ports like they are exclusives and you supposedly replayed them all again this year on GP?? Begging for FF7R and Persona too 🤷‍♂️

Games that have never been on the Xbox eco system before are not the same as getting a re-release of the same game on the next console 🤷‍♂️


Nothing you say to disparage PS+ makes sense.

I'm not the one who started any disparaging here tho.


Also, no mention of your beloved Activision or Ubisoft games? You're the first to rush anytime there is a rumor about one of them coming to GP. Bobby is feeding PS+ every month you must be mad.

Both WD2 and AC Origins were mentioned in my post. And as someone said in another thread, Sony are frantically paying Activision to put the games before the sale finalizes, good for them, Game Pass should get these all pretty much as soon as the deal finalizes anyway.
 

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Both WD2 and AC Origins were mentioned in my post
Of course because they are on GP. PS+ got more of them and you think the service is useless. Double standard.
Games that have never been on the Xbox eco system before are not the same as getting a re-release of the same game on the next console 🤷‍♂️
For a new gamer maybe but you already said you played them all so I'm not sure how replaying them again on a subscription years later gives you this much hype and "Phil is my jesus".

Just get a PS5 and play them there.
 
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Games that have never been on the Xbox eco system before are not the same as getting a re-release of the same game on the next console 🤷‍♂️




I'm not the one who started any disparaging here tho.




Both WD2 and AC Origins were mentioned in my post. And as someone said in another thread, Sony are frantically paying Activision to put the games before the sale finalizes, good for them, Game Pass should get these all pretty much as soon as the deal finalizes anyway.
You’re desperate for a win, guess what, you’re not getting one. 😂
 
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11% increase in GamePass subscribers, I wonder how the number will fluctuate with no AAA exclusives on the horizon for the best part of a year.

They'll be hoping Warhammer Riptide, Scorn and Atomic Heart can make the difference, but they're hardly household names, especially the latter two.
 

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Of course because they are on GP. PS+ got more of them and you think the service is useless. Double standard.

Yes, by the same logic that all the games I listed earlier were Vita ports :rolleyes:


For a new gamer maybe but you already said you played them all so I'm not sure how replaying them again on a subscription years later gives you this much hype and "Phil is my jesus".

Good thing the massive list of games I posted before was maybe 5~10% games I've played before and the rest were new then.



Just get a PS5 and play them there.

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You’re desperate for a win, guess what, you’re not getting one. 😂


My replies getting you all hot and bothered is satisfactory enough 🤣


11% increase in GamePass subscribers, I wonder how the number will fluctuate with no AAA exclusives on the horizon for the best part of a year.


There is a decent amount of day 1 games already confirmed on top of the dozens that get released each month we don't know about yet.
I have a suspicious feeling GP subscribers are gonna be fine.
 
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11% increase in GamePass subscribers, I wonder how the number will fluctuate with no AAA exclusives on the horizon for the best part of a year.

They'll be hoping Warhammer Riptide, Scorn and Atomic Heart can make the difference, but they're hardly household names, especially the latter two.
Can you link me that 11% increase to update the OP please?
 

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Yes, by the same logic that all the games I listed earlier were Vita ports :rolleyes:




Good thing the massive list of games I posted before was maybe 5~10% games I've played before and the rest were new then.





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My replies getting you all hot and bothered is satisfactory enough 🤣





There is a decent amount of day 1 games already confirmed on top of the dozens that get released each month we don't know about yet.
I have a suspicious feeling GP subscribers are gonna be fine.
You’re still getting Ls after Ls.
 

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I saw it on this third party website.
Both MS and that website said Xbox hardware is down 11%. Not that GP is up 11%. MS (and the website) said GP is up but without mentioning any %. The increase can be of 3 subs or 80M subs, but if they didn't specify the percentage and they didn't update the number of subs the growth must be pretty small.
 
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Hence you've abandoned it and joined this place with the hive-mind. Excellent logic, will debate again 🤣
Of course I did. GAF mods are homophobic and allow political discourse to happen if they agree with them, the Disney thread became a shithole of homophobic and racist people. They also ban you if they don't like you.
GAF is crying because GTA will have a female character. I have no business with that place anymore.
 
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Buying companies doesn't just go into your "costs." Companies are assets not costs.

Nobody here actually knows MS's profit/loss picture when it comes to Xbox..

Gaming IS strategic for them, they don't have to directly profit necessarily.. but that doesn't mean they are just losing loads of money on Xbox.

You're right, we don't, and that's the frustrating part and the reason why there's so much ambiguity when it comes to discussing only their fiscal results in gaming, not Sony's and not Nintendo's. They've tried changing the metrics from consoles sold, to MAU, to subscriptions, but one thing all three have in common is, you speak best when you can post up the dollars, and have unquestioned support when you can break those down with granularity.

Microsoft doesn't do that with anything in the Xbox division, even now, even with GamePass subs, that's a weird lack of transparency. Especially considering Xbox & GamePass technically fall under their computing sector, so who knows what type of stuff's getting mixed around when it comes to the numbers.

They're already projecting an increase in game pass growth and it off-setting the lack of first part titles for the next quarter as well.

Game Pass keeps on winning.




If some users on this forum are to be believed, each and every one of them.

But if you take an extra second to think about it, those $1 increases won't nearly be enough to off-set single digit percentage drops in their quarterly earnings, which is millions and millions in dollar amount.

Make of that what you will.

Well, we can only calculate what they give us (or don't give us), and pair that with data actually given to us by other companies, and industry analysts, and that's a hell of a lot better than taking a mega-conglomerate's word simply for what it is and not doing our own fact-checking into things.

Would do the same if Sony or Nintendo were stingy with their gaming-related numbers but they're a lot more transparent when it comes to breaking down their gaming revenue and sold-in/sold-through numbers, so there's no need to. It's only Microsoft who obfuscate. I like having these kind of numbers when talking about the financial side of the industry, so if they won't be transparent and provide them, I'll do what I can to extrapolate them with any other relevant information around.

Also worth considering about Amy Hood's comment: Xbox 1P software generally never constitutes that much of their total gaming revenue in the first place. It's not like Halo Infinite or Forza Horizon 5 did gangbusters, and I doubt they are pulling in a massive ton off DLC and MTX sales, either, which is really surprising in Halo's case but considering where the game's at, maybe also not that surprising.

Her comment is like saying they'll have a smaller chocolate chip on the cookie, even though their biggest part is a chocolate chip, and they expect this oat grain (GamePass) to make up for it. We aren't talking about huge portions of the cookie here in the first place, so how big is that oat grain actually going to be when the chocolate chip wasn't very big to begin with? 🤷‍♀️
 

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Hence you've abandoned it and joined this place with the hive-mind. Excellent logic, will debate again 🤣
You think GAF is not a hivemind? Your kind is basically all that is left after they banned 80% of PS users. The rest are too scared to post anything controversial.
thing the massive list of games I posted before was maybe 5~10% games I've played before and the rest were new then.
New 2020/21 releases on PS+ = I already played them all, service is useless.

Nintendo DS game, free on Vita in 2012 and Steam giveaway ported to Xbox in 2022 = OMG Phil can I wash your underwear 😲

I don't believe a word that you say. Somehow you played every game that is on PS+ but none of the GP games even if they were available for decades, free on PS+ or cheap on PSN.

You a fake

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New 2020/21 releases on PS+ = I already played them all, service is useless.

It's like you're deliberately being obtuse about the post where the first line was "I'll reply like your logic" that the massive list I posted was nothing but Vita ports.

Don't be this obviously disingenuous. How can we coexist otherwise :sneaky:
 
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I thought Savant led you to a Craig meltdown, glad I was wrong 😂
Haha my brother! Yes yes yes!

I 💯caused @peter42O to have a craig style breakdown last night hahaha


Look how it took him the whole night to calm himself down and than come back with 50 paragraphs to you the next day to try and save face lmao

It's like what I said earlier, xbots are the worst because they try and pretend they are neutral when they are clearly not. While others are what they are with no hiding. Don't fall for his spiel and whole song and dance. xbots always play that game. It's so transparent. Never take someone for their word. Let them prove it with action.

Heres what he wrote in another xbox fanboy thread after what he told you.

The thread was:

"The many lies and failure under Jim Ryan leadership"

It was all a bunch of silly blatant FUD points grossly misquoting or misinterpreting Jim's statements, like for example the xbot FUD claim that Jim lied about "believing in generations." Jim was talking about the controller, loading, and technology etc. So Jim was spot on and couldn't have been more true to that word. The DualSense and PS5 SSD say hello! And to this day only PS5 has had true next gen exclusives like Returnal & Rift Apart, meanwhile the xbone has had ZERO. Leave it to xbots to ignore all context and nuance. The irony being that they were the ones lied to about having next gen games or having any games! Can we say stockholm syndrome?

It was also a bunch of other ridiculous things like "Jim aint a real gamer, or they dont care about Japan, or bu but 70$,"

and yet here was his response to that FUD thread

Can't argue any of that

So as you can see, he's not sincere and has never been sincere. He ain't no Playstation fan, and has never been one. His very own posts make that clear. Remember, hold someone accountable by their actions, no matter what words they claim

So never let an xbox fan appeal to your sympathy or emotions, or run you their whole song and dance about how they are really just "neutral," and just speaking "truth"....yet they will never speak that truth when it comes to xbox

His 90 paragraph damage control to you basically comes down to:

"I was just trolling. I'm really just neutral, I promise"

He even let slip up that he posts on xbox-era lol, and anyone who knows, knows that that xbox resetera discord was a breeding ground for micorsoft shill FUD. Its game over for them now!
 
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