Microsoft's acquisition of Activison Blizzard

[adamsapple]

He is not. Chris said Xbox and PlayStation. He is not saying PS5 and Xbox Series X|S.

I'm gonna make a safe guess he is specifically talking about PS5|SX In the second tweet at least cause I can't imagine PS4+PS5 is only 60k more than One + Series. Wouldn't you agree ?

If it is, than Xbox has been more successful than even I realized.

 

[Old Gamer]

This Christopher guy sounds pretty sane, is he ok to follow or is he a shill?

Not sure if sane is how I would describe him, he does give off some anger issues vibes. Although what he said about biased media taking sides is true.

 

[Plextorage]

Bethesda has been a first party studio for more than 2 years now.

Let it go

Sure. Whenever you Xbox fans,, try whining "but, but Sony made time exclusive deals with Silent Hill, then exclusive deal with FFXVI, just remember that MS bought a big 3rd party publisher ( Bethesda) with huge IP library and instantly locked games from other platforms, starting with HiFi. Think about it before you are go full hypocrisy.

I don't recall mentioning bloodborne in any of my recent posts tho, why do you keep saying that l?

Also, I used the example of Death Stranding as an AAA third party project. Sure, it's a Sony funded project, we can call it that if me calling Death Stranding a strictly third party game is not correct, in your opinion.

Death Stranding is the same as Bloodborne. It can't be counted, not even considered as game that Sony locked or took away from other platforms. Not even close. It's a Sony IP.

Just a guesstimate including both PS4 and PS5. Keep in mind, the two games I used as reference are cross-platform.

How you can do some guesstimate when infos are available to everyone, that's beyond me. Even here are threads about sales in UK. Do some research before.

He's talking about the PS5 | Series market there. I'm including PS4|XBO as well, where the two games I used as an example are also present.

Even if you include PS4 and Xbone, split can't be 2 or 3x more. Not even close. PS4 LTD in UK was around 7 million, Xbone around 5, PS5 LTD is 2.4, XS is 1.9 mil.

And split is between 1.3 and 1.4 in the end.

 

[Swift_Star]

I'm gonna make a safe guess he is specifically talking about PS5|SX In the second tweet at least cause I can't imagine PS4+PS5 is only 60k more than One + Series. Wouldn't you agree ?

If it is, than Xbox has been more successful than even I realized.

In the UK? Yes, of course… which is terrible for the deal

 

[AshHunter216]

Jez chose to dig up this guys past instead of coming up with a rebuttal to what this reforge guy addressed in the video.

That's a new low from Jez. No rebuttal to his lies being called out just "Hey this guy's a sex pest".

 

[AshHunter216]

This Christopher guy sounds pretty sane, is he ok to follow or is he a shill?

Xbox guys hate him atm after he wrote an article critical of MS approach to pushing this deal. But yeah his figures are showing that the "Playstation's install base is too high" argument MS used in Brussels carries EVEN LESS weight in the UK.

 

[adamsapple]

Sure. Whenever you Xbox fans,, try whining "but, but Sony made time exclusive deals with Silent Hill, then exclusive deal with FFXVI, just remember that MS bought a big 3rd party publisher ( Bethesda) with huge IP library and instantly locked games from other platforms, starting with HiFi. Think about it before you are go full hypocrisy.

Thank you for proving my point. Buying the studio was the only way for MS to stop Sony's annual exclusivity clauses in their contracts.

SH and FF16 are third party paid exclusives, all future Bethesda games are going to be first party. We safely know the difference now.

If Sony buys Square Enix (they should already) then you can safely count counting any of their games out, just like Bethesda but until that happens, they are still a publicly traded third party studio right now.

How you can do some guesstimate when infos are available to everyone, that's beyond me. Even here are threads about sales in UK. Do some research before.

See my last post and the trailing messages in the tweet instead of just the one embedded. He is talking about the 60K difference in reference to PS5 and Series stocks.

It is not talking about the total lifespan difference between PS and Xbox consoles factoring in PS4+PS5 and XBO+Series.

 

[Plextorage]

Buying the studio was the only way for MS to stop Sony's annual exclusivity clauses in their contracts.

Didn’t proved your point. MS also made a bunch of 3rd party deals. Like with Tomb Raider and especiall FIFA FUT for a 4 years. That's comparable to Sonys 3rd party deals. Buying a big 3rd party publishers with huge IP library and locking them from other platform is different. Btw. MS also doing 3rd party deals like with Stalker and Warhammer series. That's is comparable to Sony's 3rd party deals

If Sony buys Square Enix (they should already) then you can safely count counting any of their games out, just like Bethesda but until that happens, they are still a publicly traded third party studio right now.

If Sony buys it ( hope they wont) then compare it, but now is totally idiotic comparing Bethesda acquisition and whole IP library and 3rd party deals which Sony are doing. It is pure hypocrisy. Full stop.

See my last post and the trailing messages in the tweet instead of just the one embedded. He is talking about the 60K difference in reference to PS5 and Series stocks.

Switch is ALSO INCLUDED here.

It is not talking about the total lifespan difference between PS and Xbox console factoring in PS4+PS5 and XBO+Series.

Then is about what if you said that LTD between the two is 2 or 3x more??

Even if you include PS4 and Xbone, split can't be 2 or 3x more. Not even close. PS4 LTD in UK was around 7 million, Xbone around 5, PS5 LTD is 2.4, XS is 1.9 mil.

And split is between 1.3 and 1.4 in the end.

 

[adamsapple]

Didn’t proved your point. MS also made a bunch of 3rd party deals. Like with Tomb Raider and especiall FIFA FUT for a 4 years. That's comparable to Sonys 3rd party deals. Buying a big 3rd party publishers with huge IP library and locking them from other platform is different.

Funny story, MS was the publisher for the game on Xbox. So that kinda makes it like a Death Stranding example. Except in that case that still got a release on other platforms after some time, and didn't stay a permanent exclusive.

I don't even know what Fifa FUT is.

Anyway, that's one comparable example. I wish there were more on the caliber of FF7 remake, FF7 rebirth, FF16 to refer to.

And before anyone brings up games like Sable, Medium, Hi-Fi Rush, High on Life, make sure you clearly acknowledge that in your opinion those games are the same level as a Final Fantasy 16 so we're clear that's what you guys also think.

 

[Plextorage]

Funny story, Microsoft was the publisher for the game on Xbox. So that kinda makes it like a Death Stranding example. Except in that case that still got a release on other platforms after some time, and didn't stay a permanent exclusive.

Are you, Xbox fan, so obtuse? It is not comparable to Death Stranding. Death Stranding is Sony IP.

I don't even know what Fifa FUT is.

Main selling point of every FIFA

And before anyone brings up games like Sable, Medium, Hi-Fi Rush, High on Life, make sure you clearly acknowledge that in your opinion those games are the same level as a Final Fantasy 16 so we're clear that's what you guys also think.

You are obtuse, aren't you. Remember Quantum Break? How about Warhammer and Stalker which are huge franchises. Yeah. :/

 

[adamsapple]

Are you, Xbox fan, so obtuse? It is not comparable to Death Stranding. Death Stranding is Sony IP.

Ok, I've already stopped bringing up DS after the first post but you keep mentioning it in every post you make lol.

Let's move on from it now if you don't think it's accurate here, let's move onto the many others.

Main selling point of every FIFA

Cool, is it like a mode inside the main Fifa games ?

kinda like the PS5 exclusive mission(s) in Hogwarts that Sony paid for ?

ok.

 

[Plextorage]

Ok, I've already stopped bringing up DS after the first post but you keep mentioning it in every post you make lol.

You've mentioned it first.

Cool, is it like a mode inside the main Fifa games ?

FIFA ULTIMATE team. In every FIFA. And it was exclusive for 3-4 years on Xbone

kinda like the PS5 exclusive mission(s) in Hogwarts that Sony paid for ?

That's timed and it will appear on Xbox sooner or later. FIFA FUT wasn't timed until MS decided to end the deal.

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[adamsapple]

You've mentioned it first.

And you've mentioned it every time after even though I stopped. so .....

That's timed and it will appear on Xbox sooner or later. FIFA FUT wasn't timed until MS decided to end the deal.

But it isn't exclusive anymore.

Just like the Hogwarts missions won't be exclusive anymore after the arbitrary 1 or 2 year timeline they've imposed, whichever limit they've imposed.

However, when will FF16, FFR7 or Rebirth come to Xbox? No one knows. The lock is so tight.

You are obtuse, aren't you. Remember Quantum Break? How about Warhammer and Stalker which are huge franchises. Yeah. :/

Microsoft owns the Quantum Break IP.

STALKER 2, reportedly based on some marketing documents, is only a 3~6 month exclusive. And are you acknowledging that STALKER 2 is as important as big and important as FF16?

 

[Swift_Star]

Thank you for proving my point. Buying the studio was the only way for MS to stop Sony's annual exclusivity clauses in their contracts.

Trillion dollar company can’t afford to outbid Sony?

 

[Swift_Star]

Xbox guys hate him atm after he wrote an article critical of MS approach to pushing this deal. But yeah his figures are showing that the "Playstation's install base is too high" argument MS used in Brussels carries EVEN LESS weight in the UK.

Of course, which is why the deal will be blocked. MS appeals and argument hold no water outside of the forum and twitter bubble.

 

[adamsapple]

Trillion dollar company can’t afford to outbid Sony?

They did, Zenimax was up for sale and reportedly Sony/Meta etc were all in the running. And now Bethesda games may or may not ever come out again on a Sony console.

 

[Swift_Star]

And you've mentioned it every time after even though I stopped. so .....



But it isn't exclusive anymore.

Just like the Hogwarts missions won't be exclusive anymore after the arbitrary 1 or 2 year timeline they've imposed, whichever limit they've imposed.

However, when will FF16, FFR7 or Rebirth come to Xbox? No one knows. The lock is so tight.



Microsoft owns the Quantum Break IP.

STALKER 2, reportedly based on some marketing documents, is only a 3~6 month exclusive. And are you acknowledging that STALKER 2 is as important as big and important as FF16?

Stalker 1 sold more than 15 million copies, more than KH3, so I’d say probably, yes. Of course now it’ll flop because games go to Xbox to die

 

[Swift_Star]

They did, Zenimax was up for sale and reportedly Sony/Meta etc were all in the running. And now Bethesda games may or may not ever come out again on a Sony console.

So they didn’t need to buy the company. Thanks for acknowledging that. MS as usual being predatory and anti competitive.

 

[adamsapple]

Stalker 1 sold more than 15 million copies, more than KH3, so I’d say probably, yes. Of course now it’ll flop because games go to Xbox to die

The SERIES has sold 15 million copies, not the first game. There's a few of them out already.

https://www.thegamer.com/stalker-2-physical-release-series-sells-15-million/

So they didn’t need to buy the company. Thanks for acknowledging that. MS as usual being predatory and anti competitive.

Yep, it was either that or Sony's draconian contracts where you were locked into marketing agreements where you were prohibited from putting a game on game pass, let alone xbox.

Glad we see eye to eye.

 

[Swift_Star]

The SERIES has sold 15 million copies, not the first game. There's a few of them out already.

https://www.thegamer.com/stalker-2-physical-release-series-sells-15-million/

And now it’ll flop terribly because nobody buys or plays games on Xbox… poor game