Microsoft's acquisition of Activison Blizzard

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Everyone here wants Xbox to die so how is me saying that Microsoft should buy Sony any fucking different?

I don't want Xbox to die. I just want Xbox to actually do better. You seem to conflate that with wanting them to die, though.

Sadly to most Xbox people if I say my idea of Xbox actually doing better, involves no longer operating it on a traditional console business model, they just assume I want MS to get out of console hardware. Well yes and no. "Yes" in that I don't think they need to market Xbox anymore like a console, that obviously isn't doing well for them in revenue nor optics. "No", because I still can see them making Xbox hardware...they would just be Xbox-branded NUC mini-PCs instead.

But Xbox console warriors know what that change would mean in terms of the "console war" battle they want to see play out between MS and Sony, and don't like what that change would signify. Well too bad; like I said I want to see Xbox genuinely do better and that means shifting away from the console business model.

 

[Papacheeks]

My reference was because the topic is exactly the same as what was posted here. I never said cloud streaming is the future. It's at least 20+ years away from being consistently used and even then it's not a guarantee. As for the hardware and software sales, Microsoft obviously doesn't care about those numbers because they're not entirely reliant and dependent on them.

 

[BloodMod]

Ok. Play nice.

 

[KiryuRealty]

oh, so now they are waking up? after decades of the same behavior from m$? countless courts etc.. just fuck off.

So you’d rather they just keep letting MS do whatever the fuck they please?

 

[KiryuRealty]

Do people actually hate Amazon that much? I have such a positive experience with them.

I hate MS a lot more. Them buying GitHub, LinkedIn, their shitty software being pushed on schools, Windows, Office, Teams, I hate it all. Xbox might actually be one of their least offensive products.

I hate Amazon because Amazon.CA is pathetic compared to literally every other Amazon site in the world. 1/28th the product, almost all sold by third party ripoff merchants.

 

[Swift_Star]

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Pull out of the UK, Block all Ip addresses to teach a continent that american companies should be able to do as they please?

I won't say how I really feel as it may offend some. I will say, this guy is a freaking moron.

That's exactly why these tools aren't in executive positions. They understand nothing of the scenario.

 

[Puff]

 

[Swift_Star]

I can name two-dozen accounts on r/PS5 that behave in the same manner. They engage in general discussion, seem pleasant enough on the surface, but when the topic of Microsoft or Xbox arises their mask slips or they drop all pretence and begin advocating hard. They have little or no activity in Xbox subs, yet know what every Xbox Game Studio is working on, how far along each project is, and express AI-like excitement for the future of Xbox.

Their main export is negativity. Enter any Sony 1st-party game thread and there they appear, expressing low-level disappointment. Visit PSVR and you see the same usernames: "My headset is already collecting dust" or "I'm thinking of selling mine because it makes me sick."

They are Xbox enthusiasts trying to form or shape narrative, and by presenting as PlayStation fans they think their opinion carries more weight.

It's such a waste of time because NOBODY cares about these forums lmao

 

[Swift_Star]

MS keeps getting Ls. I expect Brad to be fired in the following months/year.
Unacceptable behavior by a CEO.

 

[TubzGaming]

Everyone here wants Xbox to die so how is me saying that Microsoft should buy Sony any fucking different?

Not everyone* Wants Xbox to "die"
Some like me just want them to spend the money they have investing in there own studios and using IP they have and IP they have not touched.
Build the studios up that they own, Give people a reason to want a Xbox and or GamePass.

Also this:

Ok. Play nice.

 

[Swift_Star]

My reference was because the topic is exactly the same as what was posted here. I never said cloud streaming is the future. It's at least 20+ years away from being consistently used and even then it's not a guarantee. As for the hardware and software sales, Microsoft obviously doesn't care about those numbers because they're not entirely reliant and dependent on them.

I want MS to make good games by reinvesting that 70B they have, not buying entire publishers.
Yes, I know it's easier and cheaper to buy a company than creating something from scratch, but, c'mon, MS has money to do it without trying to strangle the market.

 

[Hezekiah]

My reference was because the topic is exactly the same as what was posted here. I never said cloud streaming is the future. It's at least 20+ years away from being consistently used and even then it's not a guarantee. As for the hardware and software sales, Microsoft obviously doesn't care about those numbers because they're not entirely reliant and dependent on them.

Yeah sure mate, what a lame excuse

 

[peter42O]

I don't want Xbox to die. I just want Xbox to actually do better. You seem to conflate that with wanting them to die, though.

Sadly to most Xbox people if I say my idea of Xbox actually doing better, involves no longer operating it on a traditional console business model, they just assume I want MS to get out of console hardware. Well yes and no. "Yes" in that I don't think they need to market Xbox anymore like a console, that obviously isn't doing well for them in revenue nor optics. "No", because I still can see them making Xbox hardware...they would just be Xbox-branded NUC mini-PCs instead.

But Xbox console warriors know what that change would mean in terms of the "console war" battle they want to see play out between MS and Sony, and don't like what that change would signify. Well too bad; like I said I want to see Xbox genuinely do better and that means shifting away from the console business model.

You're one of the few here that doesn't want Xbox to die then as that's all I ever read here. That and more topics/posts about Xbox than PlayStation which is weird to me for a forum that is 99% PlayStation centered and focused. I want Microsoft to do better too but wanting that and it actually happening are two very different things.

Yeah, we've had discussions regarding the Xbox consoles. The Xbox Series X is literally used for their server blades so the consoles going away is highly unlikely. I disagree with your opinion regarding the consoles because you want them to be more like PC's including the price. How would being $1000 help them sell more consoles? It wouldn't.

Their hardware business was down 30% but why is that even a surprise? First, they haven't had a major AAA title since Halo Infinite and second, they're literally using the Series X for their server blades which to be honest, I would do the exact same thing right now because why have consoles sitting on store shelves when I don't have a major AAA title to market it with? All their other aspects increased which considering the 2022 year they just had, I would say that's better than expected and Microsoft expected worse for the quarter.

Not only that but people are acting like we're a decade into the generation when we're only 2 1/2 years in. We all know that Microsoft has fucked up a few times this generation but Xbox One was far worse and Microsoft has been trying to get out of that disaster or years. We all know it doesn't happen overnight.

Microsoft is already shifting away from consoles being their main focus. It's simply an option. One that should always be there for those like me who want it but to eliminate it or overprice it isn't going to make it better at all. It would make it worse. Microsoft's current business model is better than the traditional business model because it didn't work for three generations so why would they stay with it for a fourth generation? That would make no sense.

Like I said before, im giving Microsoft this entire generation to see how it all plays out. You can't pivot on a whim. You have to build it all up first and that in of itself takes time. Switching business models would only set them back further and makes things even worse than they already are.

 

[AshHunter216]

Speaking of reddit, how are the xbox subs? They're not good on the best of days. Must be a crapshow now.

There's still "neutral" subreddits like gamingleaksandrumours that will downvote you into oblivion for being against the deal, lol.

 

[Sircaw]

I really can not fathom the audacity of Microsoft here, things don't go their way so they question the validity of a regulator.

They really have zero respect.

 

[Johnic]

Not everyone* Wants Xbox to "die"
Some like me just want them to spend the money they have investing in there own studios and using IP they have and IP they have not touched.
Build the studios up that they own, Give people a reason to want a Xbox and or GamePass.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner! If MS came out and said they spent 70 billion on opening new studios and expanding their current ones to work on existing and original new IPs, no one but some hardcore Sony fanboys would have made an issue over it.

 

[Swift_Star]

Tbh, like I read from some people:
If MS gaming business is so reliant on this deal passing, it should go down in flames. They deserve to be obliterated.
Sony and Nintendo at least know what they're doing and both bounced back.
Why can't MS do it?

 

[Johnic]

There's still "neutral" subreddits like gamingleaksandrumours that will downvote you into oblivion for being against the deal, lol.

I heard horror stories about that place. A real xbox nest.

 

[peter42O]

I want MS to make good games by reinvesting that 70B they have, not buying entire publishers.
Yes, I know it's easier and cheaper to buy a company than creating something from scratch, but, c'mon, MS has money to do it without trying to strangle the market.

There's no guarantee that they would spend that $70B on Xbox and gaming. They're trying to acquire ABK, first and foremost for King and mobile gaming because they don't exist in that market. Having King along with Diablo Immortal and COD mobile gets their foot through the door to where they could even have their own mobile storefront to compete with Apple and Google which IS a good thing. The more competition there is, the better it is for everyone.

They built a studio from the ground up with The Initiative and hired way too many "higher" people who thought they were the boss when they weren't. How did that work out? It's simply far better and easier to acquire a company that it already set as opposed to building it from the ground up.

Microsoft has made good to great games this generation but don't seem to count because it's not what you want them to be. I have only had two games thus far - Halo Infinite and Hi Fi Rush. Both for me are great games but Forza, Flight Sim, etc. are great games as well but do they not count because they're not for me? In that scenario, since Nintendo isn't for me, I guess every game they release is trash if we're going based on "is the game for me".

 

[Sircaw]

I want MS to make good games by reinvesting that 70B they have, not buying entire publishers.
Yes, I know it's easier and cheaper to buy a company than creating something from scratch, but, c'mon, MS has money to do it without trying to strangle the market.

This is 100% way to do it, use that enormous cash flow to better your own products, and don't ruin everyone else's experience just because you can buy your way to the top.