PC gaming is actually getting more affordable especially if you live in the U.S Microcenter has the best platform deals. Remember Blockbuster they also said streaming wasn't going to take over and look where they are now
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only for cpu and motherboard combos, GPUs are getting more and more expensive all the time, especially since both AMD and nVidia are moving their product stack naming down (i.e. this gen the 4060 Ti should have been the 4060 and the 4070 should have been the 4060 Ti, the 4070 Ti should have been the 4070, etc) based on hardware specs alone. Jensen Huang has stated openly that cost will scale with performance from now on due to the increasing cost of advanced nodes.
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No one said you have to exclusively buy Nvidia/Amd gpus Intel ARC GPUs are affordable I get it you’re a a fan of consoles and physical media I use to be too until I saw the writing on the wall
Bro are you even following the news? Intel is about to go bankrupt lmao
Intel is going to go bankrupt I’ve been hearing that since the tech bubble burst of the late 90’s early 2000’s yet here we are
It's an American chlipmaker giant, they would never let it fail. Yeah they are in financial trouble, but remember AMD was once in one and got better as a result. They'll shed a lot of their parts for liquidation but refocus on server and enthusiast level hardware once more. The upcoming lineup is also very promising and the competitor's most recent launch was problematic and fell flat. Competition is good, Intel needed this arse kicking now they'll get better.
Sounds good enough to me! But we still have to wait and see as we might get surprised as in it been better than a 7700 XT... Or as good as a 7700 XT... Anyway I'm still excited and can't wait to get my hands on a PS5 Pro!
The point is they're shutting down all non-essential operations right now, that means discrete graphics are dead or going to be limited to server/AI bubble chasing
That's not the point. The point is they're busy shutting down all non-essential operations and laying off 15+% of their workforce, as well as many people expecting them to spin off or sell several of their divisions. Discrete GPUs for enthusiast gamers are dead as a doornail
Discrete GPU’s for enthusiast gamers aren’t going anywhere this is just doom and gloom thinking people were also saying this during the crypto bubble days
Say what?
And with 60 CUs enabled at >2.3GHz it's also probably going to perform closer to the 7800XT than the 7700XT, especially if it runs at 1080p base where higher bandwidth doesn't make that much difference. It all depends on how PSSR behaves compared to FSR2, and how high the iGPU is going to boost (I don't think it'll be lower than 2.7GHz but we'll see).
Raytracing performance between 2080Ti and 3080 is already 7700XT/7800 XT's territory.
With twice the RT units per-CU doing twice the operations per unit, the PS5 Pro using RDNA4's RT modules should be above that.
Good post there dude... This should be shared on X etc. as well!
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Yeah the thing is that those RT benchmarks are fluffed up by titles where there's very light RT, once you look at heavy RT games the Radeon cards collapse. As far as raster goes it's closer to the 4060 Ti than the 4070, and we don't know the clocks yet - I suspect it won't clock as high as retail cards to keep the power envelope down.
Yes, but real world results will be these on average.
Besides, I doubt the developers making PS5 Pro modes are going to ever enable the kind of over the top performance-breaking raytracing effects out of Nvidia's RTX library that make the RTX cards push out ahead disproportionately.
I think path tracing will be big in the future, once they figure the image reconstruction out. It's a big time save over manual lighting, the industry will trend towards what saves them money in the long term. The question is whether the hardware will be there to do it by ps6 or ps6 pro, I think if they're reconstructing lighting from like 540p it would be doable on the PS6
Yeah I've heard/read about Path Tracing been a thing by the time the PS6/PS6 Pro is out and I think Ray-Tracing and the whole AI thing will also play a big role once the PS6/PS6 Pro is out. And since Sony sounds like they're serious about making the PS6/PS6 Pro a bigger jump than what the PS5/PS5 Pro was is something I am really looking forward to!
All of this is true, but from what I read from experts there's a lot of work to be done on the software side to be able to do it across a wide range of hardware targets.
The current DXR 1/1.1 brute force approach (mostly written by Nvidia) that is only feasibly playable on $2000 / 500W GPUs from Nvidia is awfully inefficient and is never going to get wide adoption.
The RTX ON stuff served Nvidia well for the world's Battaglias to claim you should only buy GPUs from one specific vendor so you can turn on some clotheless emperor effects, but if it's ever going to be widespread then the API and engine devs need to spend many man-months researching and implementing much more efficient approaches.
It's only after all consoles and most mid-end iGPUs are able to run this adequately that devs can forget about making shadowmaps, cubemaps, tricks to hide the deficiencies in screen-space effects, etc. and in turn shorten development times (and save money).