Xbox Head Phil Spencer Says Most People Don’t Care About 60FPS
Following the Xbox One X reveal, GameCentral sat down with Phil Spencer to talk about the new Xbox, and the everlasting framerate discussion.
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Is there something this dude hasn't made a public statement about? Xbox sales numbers I guess.Xbox Head Phil Spencer Says Most People Don’t Care About 60FPS
Following the Xbox One X reveal, GameCentral sat down with Phil Spencer to talk about the new Xbox, and the everlasting framerate discussion.
I’m sure it could do 240fps in 480i. Not so sure about 480p though.
What's this? A first party game with performance issues?
Could it be that Xbox was, in fact, not the lead development platform, and that the actual lead platform was suddenly dropped due to, let's say, "new business priorities", leaving developers with an unoptimized mess to clean up due to all the suddenly abandoned work?
Nah, must just be bad luck.
Could it be that Xbox was, in fact, not the lead development platform, and that the actual lead platform was suddenly dropped due to, let's say, "new business priorities", leaving developers with an unoptimized mess to clean up due to all the suddenly abandoned work?
Nah, must just be bad luck.
In hindsight that Bethesda acquisition ain't looking so hot. Even though Bethesda is carrying them, there is too much mediocre stuff coming out of them.
He’s actually right for once. Most really don’t, but this is a “highly anticipated” game by their fanbase and not having a 60fps mode at launch will attract a lot of negative attention from the media and the fans themselves. It’s not about if people care or not, it’s about how it’ll be seen. And it’ll be seen in a negative light.Xbox Head Phil Spencer Says Most People Don’t Care About 60FPS
Following the Xbox One X reveal, GameCentral sat down with Phil Spencer to talk about the new Xbox, and the everlasting framerate discussion.
Truly, prioritizing 4K/30fps on a coop fps makes no damn sense.
You know if @peter42O is upset, xbox really fucked up.
That whole "it's a monster" tagline for Xbox Series X really isn't aging well.
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You are right… I just pointing that maybe in MS situation there is no option at all… they have to release it and after task force to fix all things.
As the market already showed with others games it is more prone to accept rushed games that got fixed with regular patches than delays.
When you end fixing everything in your game you will be still congratulate for being a supportive developer.
People already forget Cyberpunk and are just highlighting how the life support of CDPR for the game is being awesome
There's always an option. Microsoft is a $2T dollar company and I don't care if they lose money or have to spend money to fix issues that let's be honest, are easily fixable. The Redfall issue is not a difficult issue. Just delay it until it's ready.
Accepting rushed games to be fixed later is fucking horrible. I hate that shit. It's so stupid because outside of the "big" games like a Cyberpunk via CDPR, most games will never recover releasing in a horrible state. They can be congratulated for supporting their game by releasing it in a better and acceptable state which is what they should be.
I agree with this general but I don't think Redfall would have sold that much on PlayStation 5 anyway because none of Arkane's games have ever sold well in general. Could be their best selling game on PS5 but at the same time, that wouldn't be saying much.
I get the money points but releasing games that aren't ready will do more damage and lessen profits compared to delaying the game and it being ready for release.
Uh oh. I see a long debate incoming. Hehe.
I agree with you in theory but it's not like the issues are impossible to solve. This generation should be where they make sacrifices in order to get everything set and in order for future generations. I'm more than willing to accept this generation as a reset to get everything set in exchange for next generation being far better, more organized and in a better overall state.
The entire 12 month format was a horrible idea. I hated it then and still hate it now. They should have at least said 18 months which would have covered them for all of 2023. Still horrible but at least, I could be like, okay fine.
I know there's a lot of things that come when delaying a game. I know all that but again, I don't care if they're losing money. Stop rushing out games that aren't ready which is going to cost them money anyway because look at me, I was easily going to sign up for Redfall and a few other Game Pass games that I want to play but now, they lost me indefinitely because nah, im not playing Redfall at 30FPS especially since I have been hyped for it for a year.
I agree with the last part but it sets a bad example because now, in my head, im thinking that Starfield will be 30FPS and maybe perhaps Hellblade 2 at 30FPS and im like, fuck that shit. No. This is why im in favor of subscriptions because I don't want to give any publisher more money than I have to because none of them are worth it in my opinion which ties in to why im not a collector and trade in my physical games once completed. And you can't say this is due to only Game Pass because look at Crackdown 3 which had a shit ton of issues or Recore or Halo MCC or Ryse. List goes on and on. I still believe that games should be delayed until they're ready. UGH.
I don't see any purchase I make as an investment because to me, making an investment means that you're going to get emotionally attached. I treat all this shit like they all treat me - as business. Not personal. I bought Series X and I like the product. I bought PS5 and I like the product. Happy with both. I buy Ubisoft games (for now anyway) and am usually happy with my purchase but in no way, shape or form do I get "invested" in any of this shit. If anything, I believe that's why people get outraged at anything and everything nowadays. I agree with the Redfall part but I still prefer it to get delayed. Also, im not loyal to any one company. Ubi is my favorite and im not loyal to them.
Those two Xbox exclusives, one which was published by Smilegate in CrossfireX outside of Microsoft paying for it to be timed and getting the first episode on Game Pass, had nothing to do with it. It's not like Contraband for example where Microsoft is literally funding the game and will be publishing it. Had to look up the Space Jam game. It's from Digital Extremes. Neither one of these games were published by Microsoft. It's like Godfall for PS5. Sony paid for it to be timed exclusive but other than that, they had nothing to do with that crappy game.
If the point is more that this looks bad for the Series X/S, I don't see any of the consoles being an issue. It's all about the people in the studios and the publisher giving them the money, time and resources they need to ensure the best product they can release day one.
In all honesty, I don't give two shits that they may be tired of taking hits. Easy solution. Stop doing stupid fucking shit that let's be honest, more times than not can be easily avoided and they wouldn't take as many hits as they currently are. Redfall being great or bad isn't going to change the showcase because I would imagine that majority of it would be set in stone already by the time Redfall releases and if anything, Redfall being bad lowers my hype for the showcase. It won't increase. A delay will increase my hype because they would be showing me that they're willing to take a money and PR hit in order to ensure that the game releases in the great stable 60fps state that it should launch in. I know Starfield IS the game Microsoft is putting their bets on. We'll see how that turns out. I'll say 30FPS and we'll be having the same debate in 5 months from now.
I understand the marketing issue money wise but pre or post release, they would still be paying all the developers, testers, etc. anyway but at least they wouldn't have to fix a potentially bad game and keep taking PR hits while also making Xbox and Game Pass look bad and still probably take a few months to add 60FPS. Shipments for physical though could be pushed back. Has Redfall gone gold? Even if it has, FFXV was delayed after it went gold so while extremely rare, if it's for the betterment of the game, I still say delay it.
THE TOWER OF POWERThat whole "it's a monster" tagline for Xbox Series X really isn't aging well.
You can't? Gamepass needs 1st party games.
You've ASKED for it. You, XBOX FANS, are constantly ASKING for Gamepass and constantly yelling how it needs 1st party games. This is what you get when game is designed for Gamepass and around Gamepass. Now stick with it and live with it.
i was really upset when Bethesda was bought up by Microsoft, but day by day i am getting over it really fast now.
I'd be willing to bet the cancelled PS5 version was going to be the optimized version at launch. It's down right hilarious though that we keep seeing results like this on the worlds most powerful gaming console. I know that Microsoft themselves aren't the ones out here misleading everyone, but they've let Xbox positive content creators run absolutely bonkers with various performance delta claims, etc. The chickens are coming home to roost.