Rumor of PlayStation using Third Party to help "catch up" after GAAS misfires gathers credibility

shrike0fth0rns

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Its not about freedom wars lol, they are remastering horizon zero dawn for no rhyme or reason
For no rhyme or reason? Hzd sold around 23 million copies in the past 7 yrs. 19 million just on ps4 in 4yrs. Freedom wars has done 300k in 10 yrs. Hzd is one of ps biggest ip and a remaster will make more money than any vita game that's remastered. I'm not sure why u guys don't seem to get that.
 

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This is pretty much just a pc release and a PS5 port. It's not like they are releasing a new game that costs 10s millions to make and market.

But it's not a simple port or engine upgrade. Until Dawn is being re-built on a new engine. Still not as expensive as a new game, but surely more than a simple port.


So maybe Dimps got its rights

Nope, Sony owns the IP, it's 1st party.
 
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It starts with "It's an old Vita game," "It's a LEGO game," "It's GaaS anyway," "It's a port of an old game," "It's a remake," "It's because of the TV show".... and ends with "oh well, they already have ported everything else."
🙄 99.99% of the PS user base do not care about Freedom Wars, never played Freedom Wars, they didn't even know PS owned the IP but will complain PS shouldn't port it to switch. What is the point of keeping it on PS as a principle? The Vita is a graveyard porting old dead Vita games to PS, pc, and yes, the Switch makes financial sense. Because of the Japanese install base, there is no way to make those ports viable without putting them on the switch. Some of u would rather see an ip stay dead than let sony find a financial viable way to bring it back.
 
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For no rhyme or reason? Hzd sold around 23 million copies in the past 7 yrs. 19 million just on ps4 in 4yrs. Freedom wars has done 300k in 10 yrs. Hzd is one of ps biggest ip and a remaster will make more money than any vita game that's remastered. I'm not sure why u guys don't seem to get that.
Dude don't be dense, Hzd sold that many copies based on a novel premise of hunting robot dinosaurs with most of the sales being sold at 20$, PS4 gen Sony destroyed the value of their games.

Then Horizon forbidden west happened with the IP gaining more detractors with the bloat and milquetoast story and characters. This useless remaster will do nothing but turn off their core fanbase, who are they targeting if they already sold 23 million copies. This shit wont even sell a million copies
 

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Meh all the brand power that playstation has is cooked. With the PS 3 at least they had new games coming on a regular cadence. Now they are just creatively bankrupt and just pump out remasters/remakes.

Sony has just ceded the rest of the gen to switch 2, Karma will bite them in the ass when TLoU 3 and Borizon 3 underperform by a large margin
I don't think, they are creatively bankrupt, just that direction which was given by bean counters is not what they are best for.
 

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Sounds like nonsense. A game being made before is the secret weapon for Sony’s failed gaas game, which is 1 title….
 

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Meh all the brand power that playstation has is cooked. With the PS 3 at least they had new games coming on a regular cadence. Now they are just creatively bankrupt and just pump out remasters/remakes.

Sony has just ceded the rest of the gen to switch 2, Karma will bite them in the ass when TLoU 3 and Borizon 3 underperform by a large margin
Its easy to have new games coming out regularly when they only take 2-3yrs to make. Even something as small as astrobot takes 4yes now. Alsobu talking about ps brand power is cooked when the ps5 will probably over take the ps3 by the end of next year. How is the brand power cooked if the ps5 sells more consoles in 5yrs than the ps3 sold in 10yrs? Yeah everyone is going to go get a switch 2 to play freedom wars its not like to biggest game of all time gta6 is releasing next and as far as we know there are no plans to release a switch version. Gta6 alone will sell millions of ps consoles. The switch was an anomaly. Unlikely switch 2 can do its numbers with no covid boost, competition from 1/2 dozen handhelds that do everything better than it can including run Nintendo games, ps likely to make a handheld and Xbox as well. Switch 2 will be unlikely to play current gen triple A games with out being comprised or through cloud because the leaked specs are worse than the series s. They don't have a the Wii u library to lean on and can't just port all those old games over like they did before. It definitely won't be as cheap so most ppl wont be buying multiple switches like with switch 1. 20% of switch households in the U.S owned multiple switches. Byvthevyine switch 2 sells as many ps5s as has currently been sold the ps6 will have been announced. Creatively bankrupt? Dude they literally just released astrobot which is being hailed as one of the most creative ps5 games of all time and probably will win goty! Stop the cap
 

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I heard from a QA tester in a discord chat that sega was working on a new wipeout for playstation but that was middle of last year so who knows.
 

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🙄 99.99% of the PS user base do not care about Freedom Wars, never played Freedom Wars, they didn't even know PS owned the IP but will complain PS shouldn't port it to switch. What is the point of keeping it on PS as a principle? The Vita is a graveyard porting old dead Vita games to PS, pc, and yes, the Switch makes financial sense. Because of the Japanese install base, there is no way to make those ports viable without putting them on the switch. Some of u would rather see an ip stay dead than let sony find a financial viable way to bring it back.

You have a game which have the chance of being attractive for Japanese gamers and a console somehow struggling to attract the public, and instead of using that attractive game to promote your platform (Japanese gamers went and bought a PS Vita for it), you decide to let other successful platforms get the most gains out of it.

I hope you don't make business in real life with this kind of mindset.

If Sony's only way to have their niche games to be financially viable is to have them on other platforms, they failed as a platform holder.
 
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i told ya Sony will go ALL IN on Switch 2 and port all the PS4 backlog, everything that runs will go there
 

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I'm unfamiliar with Freedom Wars? And a lot of the Vita's library since I never owned one. All I know if Persona was big on it. But Sony internally made original Freedom Wars?

So to Lego Horizon they are licensing it out to someone else to distribute?
 

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Its easy to have new games coming out regularly when they only take 2-3yrs to make. Even something as small as astrobot takes 4yes now. Alsobu talking about ps brand power is cooked when the ps5 will probably over take the ps3 by the end of next year. How is the brand power cooked if the ps5 sells more consoles in 5yrs than the ps3 sold in 10yrs? Yeah everyone is going to go get a switch 2 to play freedom wars its not like to biggest game of all time gta6 is releasing next and as far as we know there are no plans to release a switch version. Gta6 alone will sell millions of ps consoles. The switch was an anomaly. Unlikely switch 2 can do its numbers with no covid boost, competition from 1/2 dozen handhelds that do everything better than it can including run Nintendo games, ps likely to make a handheld and Xbox as well. Switch 2 will be unlikely to play current gen triple A games with out being comprised or through cloud because the leaked specs are worse than the series s. They don't have a the Wii u library to lean on and can't just port all those old games over like they did before. It definitely won't be as cheap so most ppl wont be buying multiple switches like with switch 1. 20% of switch households in the U.S owned multiple switches. Byvthevyine switch 2 sells as many ps5s as has currently been sold the ps6 will have been announced. Creatively bankrupt? Dude they literally just released astrobot which is being hailed as one of the most creative ps5 games of all time and probably will win goty! Stop the cap
Dude you are looking back to the past to justify the present whereas I am talking about the future. Xbox sales have tanked in a period of 18 months, The same can happen to playstation too and to think otherwise is delusional. You assume consumers are sheep who will blindly buy the the remasters and remakes.

They have literally ceded the huge Japanese market (2nd biggest btw), they remaster games barely half a decade old, They have a rich library from PS2 and PS3 but remaster games from PS4 which are backwards compatible - make it make sense
 

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They using flops to fix a flop? Mad sus. Don't sound like Sony to do post mortem on a product and make decisions so fast, it has not been a month yet.
 
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This is a rubbish take, the GAAS project is not even complete and yet u find ppl like you talking rubbish, plans for Nintendo releases were planned along time ago and athose plans are for new audience as done with PC...

Whoever came up with that crap either wants attention or has nothing to talk about or maybe he's just dumb..listen, think and make things make sense
 
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This is a rubbish take, the GAAS project is not even complete and yet u find ppl like you talking rubbish, plans for Nintendo releases were planned along time ago and athose plans are for new audience as done with PC...

Whoever came up with that crap either wants attention or has nothing to talk about or maybe he's just dumb..listen, think and make things make sense

Yep.
The only recent “gaas” fail was Concord. This seems to be in development before a month ago lol
 

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At first I thought, “What does Bandai have to do with this?”)

But modern Sony doesn't look for easy ways, instead of evolving existing successful IPs that could have ALREADY been released, they dug up a game from PS Vita...

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At first I thought, “What does Bandai have to do with this?”)

But modern Sony doesn't look for easy ways, instead of evolving existing successful IPs that could have ALREADY been released, they dug up a game from PS Vita...

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Would kill for this classic to be remastered. It would have a killer co-op game especially if they expand on the Factions and size of your crews.
 
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