Sony have no plan to release any major (established) franchise titles this year (April 2024- March 2025)

Danja

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Lol completely forgot about that.

I think they need more then something outside of VR to really get to the masses, i really hope asobi aren't just doing a astro bot vr.
Thankfully they aren't but they could possibly be making their next game VR compatible as well.

And PSVR2 was a complete waste of time. For such a good piece of tech they failed to utilize it. VR can be so much more than gaming and they keep failing to see that.
 

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When was the last botched Sony PC port? Probably TLoU Part I almost one year ago. That game made it to PC before even being included on PS+ and seems like it sold very little. The first entry of one of Sony biggest IPs after it exploded in popularity due to an HBO TV series.

TLoU Part I was astronomically botched but besides GoW and Days Gone, all other ports have had varying degrees of not so insignificant technical issues at launch.
But what's more telling is that for a couple of them (Spider-Man/Ratchet and Clank/Returnal/etc...) fixes to most issues were fixed within 2 weeks to a month of the game's release.
Clearly that's because the games needed just a little bit more time, it's not like devs don't know how their products run.
If the most pressing technical issues for the ports can be fixed relatively quickly, it's clear things are coming in slightly rushed every time. Those fixes were probably already in the works for post launch.
 

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Sony PC releases for 2024: Helldivers 2 day one, Until Dawn remakes (day one?), Horizon Forbidden West definitive edition

Other strong possibilities if Sony gets desperate to raise that profitability: God of War Ragnarok definitive edition, Spider-man 2, Ghost of Tsushima, GT7.

Sony is probably already sitting on those ports like Nintendo does with their games that are ready to go.
Slated for 2024 and day one on PC as well:

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I was being conservative bcus you know someone will come out and say they have a titan with cross fire PC they made with just $700 😂😂😂
If and when I build my PC, it won't be less than $3K, that much I know. For my tastes.
 

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TLoU Part I was astronomically botched but besides GoW and Days Gone, all other ports have had varying degrees of not so insignificant technical issues at launch.
But what's more telling is that for a couple of them (Spider-Man/Ratchet and Clank/Returnal/etc...) fixes to most issues were fixed within 2 weeks to a month of the game's release.
Clearly that's because the games needed just a little bit more time, it's not like devs don't know how their products run.
If the most pressing technical issues for the ports can be fixed relatively quickly, it's clear things are coming in slightly rushed every time. Those fixes were probably already in the works for post launch.
Issues fixed withing the first month sound great compared to the average game release.

Many of the previous Sony ports included shipping a game to PC with that engine for the first time ever, now games are all being developed alongside a PC version, the temptation for Sony to release a PC port to cash in grows ever stronger. On the surface it's an easy fix for their short term profitability but it's an illusion.
 

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Issues fixed withing the first month sound great compared to the average game release.

Yes but the issues could not be there or reduced significantly with just a little bit more time.
Which is why I said they're not sitting on PC ports if they always need some extra time, that's all I'm saying.
Releasing in 2024 but without a single second of gameplay revelead? We don't even know what the game is about.
2024?

I have some strong doubts as well, at the same time I know some of these FPS GaaS games do like the CoD gameplay reveal to release schedule which is like 3 months or something so it's not an impossibility. It's all about the launch hype.

Time will tell.
 

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Its going to take a decade to undo all of Jim Ryan's mistakes

Issues fixed withing the first month sound great compared to the average game release.

Many of the previous Sony ports included shipping a game to PC with that engine for the first time ever, now games are all being developed alongside a PC version, the temptation for Sony to release a PC port to cash in grows ever stronger. On the surface it's an easy fix for their short term profitability but it's an illusion.
Horizon FW and Spider-Man 2 (I didn't buy Spider-Man, but my friend did), came out with some technical problems. In general, the technical quality of these games has dropped significantly, and judging by the leaked materials, these games had PC versions in development even before the release.

Before that, Days Gone had problems, but judging by the available leaks, the problems there were that UE4 required significant modifications, and for Bend Studio, this was the first major project, because the last time they released AAA was on PS One. But it's not the studio's fault, the release is the responsibility of the management, who should have seen these problems and given additional time to fix the technical issues, but they never did.

So it seems to me that there will be more problematic releases, and the development time will also increase.

And if the game is released on the same day on PC, or after a short period of time, the temptation to add service components increases significantly...
 

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What do they expect with no big first parties, besides Insomniac wtf are these studios even doing?
Sony didn't say they won't release big first parties, they said that this year won't release sequels of top selling existing IPs of the level of GoWR or Spider-Man 2.

Which means they won't release an Uncharted, TLOU, Horizon, Gran Turismo, Spider-Man, GoT game that year. Means that they can release titles of all their other series and new IPs.

Very likely they could release this fiscal year following that description (I think some of them will release instead he next one):
  • Stellar Blade
  • Concord (by Halo+Destiny+CoD devs)
  • Marathon
  • Death Sranding 2
  • Fairgame$
  • Convallaria
  • Lost Soul Aside
  • Until Dawn remake/remaster
  • Cory's new IP
  • Team Asobi new IP
  • Some Firesprite game
  • Some 2nd party game we didn't see coming, maybe for PSVR2
By that description they could even release Bloodborne 2 (I think they wont).
 
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Was it really Jim Ryan, though? Maybe he has been the fall guy all along. After all, he admitted that PC is a competing platform, before his retirement.

Either he came to that conclusion much later, or has held that belief for a while and was trying to stop an even more aggressive push for PC ports of 1P games. It could honestly have been either/or.

We'll see in due time. But right now, yes it does look like the push for internal 1P to focus on GaaS has come at the detriment of a solid pipeline for new 1P internal studio software releases. This was a particular concern of mine.

If Sony are taking the approach for 1P/2P/3P/platform expansion I've been talking about the past few months, then there actually isn't much to worry about in the long-term. It might be a bit rough 1P-wise for this year and 2025 (in terms of internal 1P studios releasing new non-GaaS titles), but they'll recover on that front by sometime in 2025.

IF Sony are taking a significantly different approach that also includes rapid focus of more 1P non-GaaS titles to PC (and maybe even other consoles) with shorter windows or Day 1, AND they still don't have anything like their own storefront on those other platforms...well...it's been a good run, lads. But every amazing show comes to an end eventually.

...some prematurely, as would be the case here. But still...

Sony didn't say they won't release big first parties, they said that this year won't release sequels of top selling existing IPs of the level of GoWR or Spider-Man 2.

Which means they won't release an Uncharted, TLOU, Horizon, Gran Turismo, Spider-Man, GoT game that year. Means that they can release titles of all their other series and new IPs.

Very likely they could release this fiscal year following that description (I think some of them will release instead he next one):
  • Stellar Blade
  • Concord (by Halo+Destiny+CoD devs)
  • Marathon
  • Death Sranding 2
  • Fairgame$
  • Convallaria
  • Lost Soul Aside
  • Until Dawn remake/remaster
  • Cory's new IP
  • Team Asobi new IP
  • Some Firesprite game
  • Some 2nd party game we didn't see coming, maybe for PSVR2
By that description they could even release Bloodborne 2 (I think they wont).

This reads a lot like a hopium list and many of these titles are not from an internal 1P studio.

More importantly, since a lot of these games haven't been officially revealed or confirmed for a release in the next fiscal year, there's little point in mentioning them for reassurance. Just feels a bit like list wars to me, like when Xbox people kept mentioning "Project this and Project that" a year or two ago as 'insiders' were leaking games supposedly in development.

A lot of those games aren't coming for many years or even at all. What's to say a similar fate isn't in store for Cory Balrog's game, or Team Asobi's new game? Proof is in the pudding IMO.
 

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Yurinka is usually on point about most stuff. Just got to watch out when he occasionally inserts complete fiction into things.
 
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God this is the time the forum starting be obnoxious.

@nongkris @Nhomnhom @Danja1187 whiny complainers against wall of text spinning specialist @Yurinka

Who will prevail?
@Gamernyc78 Can you please merge all the Sony financial reports threads into one please?
Yurinka uses chat GPT to generate his nonsese, mine is 100% human made doom.

My dooming is fair and unbiased, if it's something I would criticize on Xbox I also criticize on PlayStation, plenty of people here contradict themselves when PlayStation does the same things as Xbox.
 

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Yurinka is usually on point about most stuff. Just got to watch out when he occasionally inserts complete fiction into things.
shh you not suppose to say that mate. He is a market analyst, a professional one.

This is the battle between keybo... I mean specialists, analysts, columnists who definitely are not fringe fanboys
 
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God this is the time the forum starting be obnoxious.

@nongkris @Nhomnhom @Danja1187 whiny complainers against wall of text spinning specialist @Yurinka

Who will prevail?
@Gamernyc78 Can you please merge all the Sony financial reports threads into one please?
There's still plenty on the forum to discuss outside of financials and the threads should remain unmerged for obvious reasons.

Don't worry tomorrow you can get back to your Xbox obsession when they do their podcast.