Starfield could be biggest launch of 2023. No. 1 in the UK boxed charts

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what level of desperation is that again?
 

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what kinda nonsense is this

I'm playing it and enjoying it but I've never see the way a company can spin data into something it is not like Microsoft

how the fuck can you equate gamepass downloads to sales

are you getting $60 for every download? ? Fuck no
 
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His reports have been weird lately.

Using game pass/players in comparison to actual copies sold.

Now he's saying 6 players in 2 days when this also counts early access players. lol


Big damage control on his part.

Since when do we compare the number of players with actual physical and digital sales?
How is starfield different from forza horizon 5 or halo infinite?

Dring seems to have lost all coherence.
 

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His reports have been weird lately.

Using game pass/players in comparison to actual copies sold.

Now he's saying 6 players in 2 days when this also counts early access players. lol

Notice how he deliberately leaves off what the 5m is in reference to GOW or the other games. He just lists the number, not what it's measuring, then with Starfield states it's players. Would lead some to easily believe he's referencing the same metric, since it's a logical conclusion that is what he means, though it isn't. Only if you knew what the numbers were would you realise the lie. So it's another great piece of journalistic integrity to mislead readers through lying by omission.
 

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His reports have been weird lately.

Using game pass/players in comparison to actual copies sold.

Now he's saying 6 players in 2 days when this also counts early access players. lol


vile vile company. This is gaslighting to new levels

how can people playing a game on a 12 quid service = 5 million copies of a 70$ game sold

absolutely ludicrous that spinning this as this unbelievable positive will do anything good for Microsoft in the long term
 

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PS - something is very very wrong if destiny on windows is outperforming when that player base is like 5% of Destiny’s steam user base. Especially since destiny isn’t really putting up its strongest numbers this summer either.

Like wtf does that mean no one is using windows version with gamepass? Does that mean the rest of those players in that initial concurrent stat is mostly console? Because it’s starting to seem like it.

This will be very interesting to watch. Keep in mind it’s expected Starfield to hang around for a decade just like skyrim or fallout but still… what

Bethesda’s own launcher is dead right? It migrated all over to windows and steam? Not sure.
 

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PS - something is very very wrong if destiny on windows is outperforming when that player base is like 5% of Destiny’s steam user base.

Like wtf does that mean no one is using windows version with gamepass? Does that mean the rest of those players in that initial concurrent stat is mostly console? Because it’s starting to seem like it.

This will be very interesting to watch. Keep in mind it’s expected Starfield to hang around for a decade just like skyrim or fallout but still… what

Bethesda’s own launcher is dead right? It migrated all over to windows and steam? Not sure.
What else do those people have to do on console? If you own and XS console, outside of hating RPGs and the setting, you're playing this. People on Steam prefer BG3 it seems.
 
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vile vile company. This is gaslighting to new levels

how can people playing a game on a 12 quid service = 5 million copies of a 70$ game sold

absolutely ludicrous that spinning this as this unbelievable positive will do anything good for Microsoft in the long term


His reports have been weird lately.

Using game pass/players in comparison to actual copies sold.

Now he's saying 6 players in 2 days when this also counts early access players. lol

"6m in 2 days", yes, lets just ignore the 6 days of early access that only cost $30 and that many people got for free with every AMD CPU/GPU.....

This guy is straight up just lying now and we're all supposed to go along with it or we're labeled as toxic console warriors. Xbox is truly an awful company, first they tried to manipulate the reviews, and now they're trying to manipulate the game's underwhelming performance.
 

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"6m in 2 days", yes, lets just ignore the 6 days of early access that only cost $30 and that many people got for free with every AMD CPU/GPU.....

This guy is straight up just lying now and we're all supposed to go along with it or we're labeled as toxic console warriors. Xbox is truly an awful company, first they tried to manipulate the reviews, and now they're trying to manipulate the game's underwhelming performance.
I can't believe my eyes he's comparing 5 million, 10 million copies sold to 6 million players

this is literally comparing apples to oranges

the gaming sphere is finished
 
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Feels like an agenda to start sneaking in GP BS numbers into sales info.
Good that gamers are not having it, but where are the journos and dudes in the same industry to shut this clown up...

The only stat for gamepass that is actually important is: How many NEW subscribers have joined since the game has released compared to the previous months and how many have stayed a month or 2 after.

Everything else is pure twisted poppy shit. If they don’t show those numbers or the sales numbers, it hasnt done well. It doesnt matter how many players are playing it, how many coversations or bullets have been shot. How many steam active players there are, or how many videos are viewed. None of it matters apart from sales and new subcribers
 

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Mixing actual sales with early acess player numbers

Xbox never reveal sales anymore

Cmon xbox

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I imagine if he believes box office movies includes streaming in their revenue lol

Subscription doesn’t add revenue unless the players subscribed just for that game… so players means nothing here.