Starfield is the fifth biggest game launch in Europe this year (so far)
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Clown Dring is back with fake made-up metrics for Starfield only. Bigger than Diablo 4 my ass.
Lots of spinning the numbers to make it a bigger success than it is.
Lots of spinning the numbers to make it a bigger success than it is.
You're implying that people prefer to talk about FF16, which is an exclusive like Starfield, but not multiplayer games like Jedi Survivor and RE4.In a sales thread... no.
Is that some console war thing?
A lot of exclusives sells better than the majority of multi platforms games... so what the point? Being exclusive or not never made difference... you Zelda example is probably the top seller in Europe and it is exclusive
Whereas people are simply responding to the article's biased comparison, which puts FF16 first (and which in reality has only 4 days' accounting) compared with 11 days for Starfield.
You're not going to criticize people for talking about FF16 instead of other games, since the first comparison the article makes is with ff16?
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His headline is misleading because his tweet says "5th fastest selling game," emphasis on fastest. Not most, biggest, or largest, but fastest.
He is counting more days to spin the numbers for Starfield. 3 days for FF16 vs 12 for Starfield? Just ridiculous comparison.Oof. @Gods&Monsters aint going like this one. FF16 behind even though SF is on gamepass day 1?
FF16 total was never expected to beat Starfield anyway on 1 platform only. Starfield was supposed to be the GOAT with 1m concurrent on Steam, remember that? Nobody was expecting FF16 to do Fallout 4 numbers.
Almost Text book definition of a flop
I've already addressed him previously with something else last week IIRC (when he was trying to fluff Starfield's player count like copies sold, and got GOWR's numbers and timeframe wrong to make it seem like Starfield was a bigger success), but at this point these people will do what they want.
Sadly the only sales analyst at this point I feel is actually worth following or trusting is Mat Piscatella. He seems to try keeping it the most neutral, and doesn't fan flames with misleading puff-reporting to make games look like they're doing better than they actually are. That's worth some respect. Chris better be careful, or he'll see himself sliding into Bloomberg Takashi territory :/
4 days of tracking vs Starfield's 12, yet Starfield only placed two spots ahead. Absolute unit differences could be Famitsu-tier (where a few hundred copies gives the edge).
Can you even maths?
FF16 is a main line game in a big franchise that sold below expectations for that franchise.
Starfield is a new IP.
BTW it sold way better than FFXVI that already makes your comment hard to understand
So the Starfield Defense Force has mobilized, I see.
Starfield is as much a "new IP" as Elden Ring was. Nobody's stupid; they knew ER was "Demon's Souls open-world", so it largely benefited from a well-known IP that was already growing healthily before its release. Starfield is essentially "Fallout/TES in space", so it massively benefits from the identity of those two already well-known IP. It's nowhere NEAR the legwork to get known as an actual new IP that's completely divorced from the company's previous efforts, you should know that.
And again, Starfield has 3x the amount of tracking here than FF XVI did. 12 days vs 4 days. It only managed a couple spots ahead. If the console sales splits are anything to go by, the difference between Starfield & FF XVI sales overall could merely be by a few hundreds of units, across physical & digital. We have no way of truly knowing. So claiming it's sold "way better" than FF XVI is just silly. Get some hard numbers first, then make that claim.
He did the same spin with the Starfield player counts vs GOWR and TOTK sales last week. He reported 6 million players in 2 days for Starfield, which was factually wrong, as it was 6 million across 6 days. And rounded down GOWR's 5.1 million to 5 million, for one week (7 days), when it was actually 4 days.
Caught hella shit in the comments for it, as deserved. These folks are not impervious to criticism when they get things blatantly wrong, and making themselves look very unprofessional in the process.
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Seems low, considering it’s MS biggest game of all time, + low entry fee for those with gamepass ($30), two weeks tracking (ff16 had 5 days only) and also available on PC, the biggest install base there is.
Singlehanded the biggest failure of the year, when you take context in account.
Singlehanded the biggest failure of the year, when you take context in account.
'starfield is a new IP' stop with this bullshit everyone knows it's just tes/fallout in space ...FF16 is a main line game in a big franchise that sold below expectations for that franchise.
Starfield is a new IP.
BTW it sold way better than FFXVI that already makes your comment hard to understand
Three scenarios at the end of this month:
1. Starfield in top three: This is impressive.
3. Starfield in the top ten: The Game Pass effects, MS is anticipating this outcome.
4.Starfield is outside the top 10: Houston, we have a problem
1. Starfield in top three: This is impressive.
3. Starfield in the top ten: The Game Pass effects, MS is anticipating this outcome.
4.Starfield is outside the top 10: Houston, we have a problem
Fifth biggest game yet on sale for double the time.
Maybe Dring thinks we are all illiterate.
Maybe Dring thinks we are all illiterate.
It is still a new IP like Elden Ring, Red Dead Redemption, etc... using the same engine doesn't mean it is the same IP.
Yeap ethomaz is the Starfield Defense Force
That is how laughable it looks lol
Before Red Dead Redemption there was Red Dead Revolver.
Elden ring is dark souls with a different name , red dead redemption is GTA with cowboys
Yeap ethomaz is the Starfield Defense Force
That is how laughable it looks lol
....This is clownery. I rest my case.
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Yeah, Starfield flopped hard.
Context matters. Game was pushed like some kind of revolution, forced as MS biggest game of all time, had a cheap EA period, with 2 weeks worth of tracking, and is available on steam, where it was the first wishlisted for the last year and has the biggest installbase there is.
Yeah, Starfield flopped hard.
Where is the weekly UK rankings? Usually we get that instead of this 1 week for All of Europe nonsense that was made specifically for Starfield only.