Yea instead of PS5 outselling XBS 3:1, PS5 now only outselling XBS 2.99:1
So totally worth it.
Starfield | Review & Discussion Thread
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So totally worth it.
No my point about the fast travel via menus in starfield is that the game is so poorly designed that your question is legit. Why even have the spaceship at all for travel?
I was criticizing the game, not your post.
I think it is an outdated game, but is an OK-Good game.
But the game is so hyped you think it would be the second coming of Half Life or GTA or Zelda BOTW. Complete revolution in gaming landscape.
I meant the fanbase is hyping this detail up, definitely coping.
Xbox will never stand toe to toe with playstation & Nintendo Japanese are the undisputed kings of gaming & the US can cry that they don't have a monopoly over them all they want
Play the game bro stop defending it on here & play it
i am defending the game...and
and
Broski take a deep breath & just admit the game is mid
I meant like we just want a better game than 13 and 15 and dark deep emotional cinematics fantasy . And to be fair they delivered it.
I would say the 3 main pillars (in my experience and enjoyment of BGS games) are:
1. Character progression system (skills, levelling, perks).
2. Narrative choice.
3. Immersive gameplay systems (Ability to move bodies, drop items, lots of items physically sitting on shelves).
1 and 2 is where BGS games have failed since Fallout 3. Progression system gets shallower, skills removed, less numbers based, perks devolve into "10% more X damage" and "Chance to Ignore Y% armour" and so on. Where is the fun of getting 100 acrobatics and flying around everywhere you jump like Oblivion? Or using flight potion and flying across the map in Morrowind? As for point 2, look at Fallout 4. You get the same ending slides regardless, you're railroaded into being a certain person and engaging in the world in a certain way, dialogue options reduced to where it's very hard to be evil and outright refuse to do what people want. Even playing Starfield I was doing a questline where I felt I was being manipulated, but there was no option for me to do anything about it, you have to wait until you get offered the choice between one of two paths by the game instead of being able to act within the game by your own cognition.
Point 3 largely still exists, but I don't know why limb dismemberment is a continual feature, or heads being able to be blown off. Can't even strip enemies naked in Starfield, so there are downgrades to the system.
Ah no worries, apologies for misunderstanding. I think this is the feature they couldn't make fun so likely had to scale it back before launch because their default implementation sucked. That's possibly why there are 2 types of fast travel (planet menu - direct, and space ship - cutscenes) as they might have added the first after the grind of travelling around everywhere via ship to complete fetch quests wasn't enjoyable.No my point about the fast travel via menus in starfield is that the game is so poorly designed that your question is legit. Why even have the spaceship at all for travel?
I was criticizing the game, not your post.
That poster is like a joke account. I don't know why they don't ban him already. The thread giving full credit to Microsoft for a "90+ Meta masterpiece" BEFORE the release of Starfield was a shitshow.
It's at 86 but they deserve to go even lower just for that thread and a permaban too.
you do this by engaging in what kind of activities ?
via Dialog Trees/ outcome in conversations and actions in the world
you loot something via stealing, lock picking, stealing, finding items while exploring the world .
this is what i am realizing. that the hardcore Bethesda people are expecting more. (totally justifiable) and that is what it should be.
because when i am listening to those people who like/love this game usually say "I am not really a Bethesda fan, or I have never been in to Bethesda games that much".
as i said in another post: The potential of this game is hindered by its outdated engine.
They didn't delivered half of that is expected from a Final Fantasy game.
That's a pretty strong guess IMO.
It wasn't really your fault on the misunderstanding, I worded it in a way where it was easy to think I was commenting on your post and not the game itself. But I did have that very thought "Why even bother using the ship?" when I realized I could just jump straight from the lodge in New Atlantis to whatever my next destination was.
I agree with you that they underdelivered in some key parts of FF16. The thing is that the areas they did deliver in were spectacular (although tbh even with those moments it was hard for it to carry the entire game). I don't see those same highs in Starfield, while still having the abysmal lows of underdelivering in key aspects of the game. Bethesda games aren't known for their incredible highs anyway, they're known for being sandboxes where you can do whatever you want, have a plethora of mods that make the game what you want it to be, etc... and with limited mods at launch and severely cut down wow factor in exploration due to being gated by myriad loading screens and most of the non-handcrafted locations being boring as shit... it just doesn't do what it's supposed to.
I numbered your individual points so I can reply easier.
1/3 - There is interaction between skill system and engaging activities in the world, but they don't synch up perfectly. Go back to Acrobatics as I mentioned, you can't engage with the world in this manner anymore. Even boost pack in Starfield, which seems closest in similarity to Acrobatics, has boring perks and development. You get more boost as you level it up, you recharge it faster as you level up. Part of this is due to lack of skill system itself (1-100) since with that you could increase prowess of booster pack, and as you level save perks for "You are harder to hit while boosting in combat", but that doesn't exist (AFAIK) in Starfield, which makes it worse.
Engaging in activities is interesting, but you go somewhere, get XP, do 10% more damage, I don't think that is a satisfying character progression system. It's nothing like Dragon's Dogma where you build new classes and get new skills, or BG3 where you're defined by specific options you take.
2 - Dialogue trees and conversations are only PART of the narrative. Even excluding what you can say within dialogue in FO4, the game results in the same ending slide. So the narrative of the game doesn't change much, you can only fiddle with some aspects in the dialogue. I cannot remember a single interesting line, quote, or speech from any BGS games outside of Dagoth-Ur's speech, and "I'm watching you...scum" so conversations themselves seem week, but the grander scope they're contained in is what is appealing (to me at least).
4 - Not surprised, the game is a low level content farm with procgen garbage and radiant quests. Lowest common denominator gamer spending 1h walking around mindlessly killing people and getting random gear would love this because you don't have to engage in the story, world, or progression system in any manner that might be alienating.