A lot of PlayStation guys don't like gaas. Also the game is just slop on white bread.
Why Are People Happy That Concord Is Failing?
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Yep
I think lots of PS folks hate woke too and lots of PC guys in the xbox grifters section.
Sony also should of stepped in with the character designs/pronouns. That alone has stopped so many people trying it. And even though I hate FP2, they should be able to read the room, seems like if your game is PVP only then they need to do that.
Also PS fans love single player games, so Sony needs to give that to its gamers if they are charging $40. Helldivers can be played alone basically.
Id rather they put in the money for a campaign and some extra content for $60
On Sony stepping in, thats a no go for me, let the artist cook, if people don't like the artist design then cool its just not for some people. But asking executives to tell artist what to design i dont want that future.
Personally, I am happy with the failure - but only because I believe Sony needs some big losses that stem from not really listening to what gamers want - to get back to being consumer centric and really listening to what gamers desire. This includes PR, communications, etc in addition to the games themselves.
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It was honestly prolly too late to do anything without a delay tho. But i agree something had to be done.
Biggest issue with concord for me is no single player.
That's not how it should be though! I get that they revealed it close to release so really no hard changes could be made, but Sony sat and twiddled their thumbs and let the backlash get outta control. If it was even to address concerns and say future updates will rectify the issue and remove pronouns and stuff.
The entire rollout was the worst ever for a PlayStation first party game I've ever seen.
The amount of hate generated FAR more engagement then anything positive. Discourse on this game, you got 1 person who played it for every 50 haters. These big name influencers with millions of views absolutely had a lot to do with this situation. Sony/Firewalk seriously fumbled the way it was presented to audiences as well.
Very sad situation for a game that by all accounts is great.
because people are just fucking miserable
some years a go...why sony doesnt do mp games? some years ago i dont like f2p i want to pay for my games
and yet...
some years a go...why sony doesnt do mp games? some years ago i dont like f2p i want to pay for my games
and yet...
I think that Concord could have been successful with:
- Unique, cool and badass artstyle different than the popular MP shooters
- Some very cool & fun main game mode or mechanic that would make a difference compared to the popular MP shooters
- Diverse cast but with characters more proportional and appealing to the FPS/tactical shooter/eSports(I don't have the hero shooter one but if available that one too) player demographics:
- Half of the cast being muscular/fit, handsome male characters
- A quarter of the cast being female characters with attractive and femenine body proportions and attitudes (having boobs, not androginous proportions, not obese, not tomboys)
- A quarter of the cast being robot/exotic alien colors for skin or hair, gorilla, very thin, chubby, obese to add variety also in silhouettes
- Half of the cast white-ish (including nordic/tan/latin/mediterranean/arab) humans, with different skin and natural hair colors (blonde, red, brown, black)
- A quarter of the cast being black or (not arab) Asian
- All playable characters should be badass or cute, in addition to cool, charismatic and unique
- Apply "diversity" to the enemies too: avoid using white heterosexual men only for bad guys, dumb and weak enemy/NPC characters
- No made up genders / pronouns / LGTB etc. in the game other than some hint in some not frequent sentence. If want to include these things keep it mainly for the lore outside the game, similar to as done in Street Fighter. They had a gay character in SF1, a trans character, bisexual characters, trans character... nobody complained about them and people love them
Price isn't a problem for CoD, Destiny 2, Rainbow Six Siege, Helldivers 2 etc.
If people would have loved the game but the price would have been the issue then a ton of people would have praised the game, played the beta and would have skipped the game. But isn't the case, people is hating it and spamming shit about it even if never even played the beta.
90% of the hate comes from being a Sony game: anti-Sony fanboys who are fanboys of Xbox and Nintendo plus anti-Sony fanboys who are supposed to be Sony fans but are constantly spamming hate, fud and lies about this game, their studio or Sony because want PlayStation to fail and shut down because they don't make enough games of the type they want and can't stand to see Sony making GaaS, MP games or publishing games outside PS.
If Marvel Rivals would be a Sony game would have received that same hate from these same fanbosys.
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I think forty dollars up front when your competitors are free is a big part of it. But another one is the game's big selling point was supposed to be the weekly story drops but we saw the first one in a SoP and it was bland as all get out. I don't think that part of the presentation, which was supposed to be the game's X Factor, brought anyone in and instead became a thing of mockery.
And yes, as a live service game that is designed to engage players for years, well player time is limited and you can't just be "okay" and expect to gain and keep an audience like that. 8s aren't acceptable, you have to be a 9 or 10.
And yes, as a live service game that is designed to engage players for years, well player time is limited and you can't just be "okay" and expect to gain and keep an audience like that. 8s aren't acceptable, you have to be a 9 or 10.
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This makes me think of Hogwarts and Stellar Blade as examples of recent objectively well put together games that delivered fan service - yet strangely there were a lot of people not happy about what appeared to be good games. If "I dislike this for political reasons" is valid for one group it's valid for another, enjoy the bed you made.
I'm not into hero shooters but it seems fairly obvious to me that the market was not looking for a new one and people like these things free not $40. Also giant fat black lady master chief had me howling the second I saw it.
I'm not into hero shooters but it seems fairly obvious to me that the market was not looking for a new one and people like these things free not $40. Also giant fat black lady master chief had me howling the second I saw it.
Reskins and designs happen all the time, shouldnt be too hard tbh.
But Yes I would of loved a campaign. Story could of been how the crew got together and their backstory. I played Timesplitters 2 recently and the mission design/map design would of been great for this.
Then carry it on via pvp
If Playstation want's a successful gaas I shall spell it out for them Wipeout online racing leagues with a banging techno soundtrack.
Remember...the ~400 person Destiny team was able to float at 1,300 person Bungie for a length of time while averaging around 80k CCU.
I think The Finals (made by 75 employees) is doing just fine with a 20 CCU avg.
I would never want a game to flop. Those game developers are friends and families, fathers, mothers, children. All working hard, all putting their love and energy into a game. I may not LIKE the game, but I like that fact that there are game developers out there making games to the best of their ability for us.
Destiny also sells $120 worth of content a year to sustain operations as it paywalls new content. So… very much not comparable.
Smite averages ~10k on Steam.
Paladins averages ~5k on Steam.
Hi Rez Studios is 450 employees. I think The Finals is doing fine.
Fact is people are sick of this type of multiplayer games. Almost all of these games are copy-paste from each others. They are as redundant as those Doner kobab places in Germany. Add to that characters that don't appeal to majority of gamers.
I remember developers experimenting many ideas during PS360 generation. Sure, many of the innovative multiplayer games failed during that era, but it was mainly because multiplayer at that era was mostly considered a side dish and not all people had best internet connection.
I remember developers experimenting many ideas during PS360 generation. Sure, many of the innovative multiplayer games failed during that era, but it was mainly because multiplayer at that era was mostly considered a side dish and not all people had best internet connection.
It's so funny how suddenly everyone is sick of this games when it relates to Concord but we also had people on this very forum and outside announcing how a game like Valorant was gonna eat Concord for breakfast... When it launches on console.
Marvel Rivals again didn't face this same narrative... But for Concord... Too late, oversaturated market, should have been canceled...
A lot of revisionist history taking place because people don't wanna admit why they really are shitting on this game.
Funny to see though.
Marvel Rivals again didn't face this same narrative... But for Concord... Too late, oversaturated market, should have been canceled...
A lot of revisionist history taking place because people don't wanna admit why they really are shitting on this game.
Funny to see though.