Xbox fanatics social media meltdowns in regards to 3rd party move and other losses |OT| "When fiction meets reality.

[quest4441]

Buying apple products is just asking for getting price cucked. The macbooks are the only product they have that are worth the price they charge everything else is a scam. But between microsoft and apple , apple is the better one because atleast they give a shit about the product they make. Microsoft just makes bland milquetoast products and software solutions that depend on driving other competitors out of the market. Honestly you americans did not got after microsoft hard enough in the 90's, you should have standard oil that shit. Normal everyday consumers have no power over microsoft because most of their revenue comes from enterprise solutions, In case of apple its not the case as they have to sell product.

Google is altogether another shitshow that became what it is today because of others being incompetent. Google, Meta, Microsoft, Amazon are the 4 horsemen of apocalypse, add in blackrock and vanguard and yeah you start feeling like the meteor destroyed the wrong species

 

[Nhomnhom]

Do they ?

Yes.

 

[Would_you_kindly]

Yes.

Prove it & stop being a cuck for apple

 

[Nhomnhom]

Prove it & stop being a cuck for apple

I don't need to prove to you that Sony has worked with Foxconn to produce PlayStations are you actually too stupid to check it yourself?

 

[Would_you_kindly]

I don't need to prove to you that Sony has worked with Foxconn to produce PlayStations are you actually too stupid to check it yourself?

So you're saying they've been making playstation on the cheap G taking a loss at the same time

 

[peter42O]

Fuck that Karim guy!!

 

[Nhomnhom]

So you're saying they've been making playstation on the cheap G taking a loss at the same time

Yes? Are you joking? Foxconn has been making PlayStation for ages. How long have you been around there were even rumors of disgruntled workers sabotaging PS4 on release. Sony has also moved on from taking long term losses on consoles on the PS4 generation, they now made to become profitable shortly after release.

Apple is not any different from pretty much any company that moved manufacturing to China.

 

[Would_you_kindly]

Yes? Are you joking? Foxconn has been making PlayStation for ages. How long have you been around there were even rumors of disgruntled workers sabotaging PS4 on release. Sony has also moved on from taking long term losses on consoles on the PS4 generation, they now made to become profitable shortly after release.

Apple is not any different from pretty much any company that moved manufacturing to China.

Never heard of foxconn

 

[quest4441]

So you're saying they've been making playstation on the cheap G taking a loss at the same time

some part of every product is made in a sweat shop in china, frankly would have to like an amish to avoid that. foxconn is pretty famous for having nets around buildings to avoid workers jumping

 

[Would_you_kindly]

some part of every product is made in a sweat shop in china, frankly would have to like an amish to avoid that. foxconn is pretty famous for having nets around buildings to avoid workers jumping

Why aren't we informed About this stuff it's so depressing

 

[anonpuffs]

Why aren't we informed About this stuff it's so depressing

we are, you just don't read the news lol. foxconn makes parts for pretty much every iphone, there were plenty of stories about workers jumping out of the windows to commit suicide because of how shitty it was there and it happened so much they had to put up nets around the buildings to stop people from doing it

 

[Would_you_kindly]

we are, you just don't read the news lol. foxconn makes parts for pretty much every iphone, there were plenty of stories about workers jumping out of the windows to commit suicide because of how shitty it was there and it happened so much they had to put up nets around the buildings to stop people from doing it

That was them ? What's that got to do with Sony though they're making stuff for apple

 

[quest4441]

we are, you just don't read the news lol. foxconn makes parts for pretty much every iphone, there were plenty of stories about workers jumping out of the windows to commit suicide because of how shitty it was there and it happened so much they had to put up nets around the buildings to stop people from doing it

This is why I don't sympathize with western devs when they have to crunch, they always have alternatives from switching jobs to switching careers. In china once you are on the shitlist of a corporation then you are done, you either work yourself to a grave or land up in a re-education camp somewhere by your friendly neighborhood CCP comrade

 

[Would_you_kindly]

This is why I don't sympathize with western devs when they have to crunch, they always have alternatives from switching jobs to switching careers. In china once you are on the shitlist of a corporation then you are done, you either work yourself to a grave or land up in a re-education camp somewhere by your friendly neighborhood CCP comrade

I didn't know it was that bad , we should all raise money to help some of them I'm down for a sponsored run or something

 

[quest4441]

That was them ? What's that got to do with Sony though they're making stuff for apple

foxconn and others like it manufactures a lot of electronics, they may not manufacture major components but all modern electronics have some component manufactured in china

 

[anonpuffs]

I didn't know it was that bad , we should all raise money to help some of them I'm down for a sponsored run or something

this isn't something you can fix with donations

 

[anonpuffs]

This is why I don't sympathize with western devs when they have to crunch, they always have alternatives from switching jobs to switching careers. In china once you are on the shitlist of a corporation then you are done, you either work yourself to a grave or land up in a re-education camp somewhere by your friendly neighborhood CCP comrade

I mean... so you don't sympathize with devs because other people are jumping out of windows committing suicide because of how bad it is?

IDK about you but I'd rather everyone have decent working conditions

 

[Nhomnhom]

I didn't know it was that bad , we should all raise money to help some of them I'm down for a sponsored run or something

That is pretty much how China became as big as they are. Companies started realizing they could move the bulk of their manufacturing to China for some slight savings, avoid having to follow more strict regulations, deal with better organized workers, etc. All over the course of multiple decades with the blessing of pretty much everyone and it snowballed over time to the point a lot of products couldn't even realistically be made outside of China for some time now.

It also set up China to be a major player in global politics all over the world, worst deal ever for most countries.

Apple was just one of many companies that resorted to this. In their case it just is slightly more offensive because their products had ridiculous big margins.

 

[Would_you_kindly]

this isn't something you can fix with donations

I'm not trying to fix it just help

 

[quest4441]

I mean... so you don't sympathize with devs because other people are jumping out of windows committing suicide because of how bad it is?

IDK about you but I'd rather everyone have decent working conditions

come on bro , I am saying working 10-15 hrs extra a week in the final phase of development is not worth crying about when shit can be much more egregious like china, maybe its my personality but when I commit to a deadline I can't relax if I don't complete it. They don't want to crunch, they want increased salaries, want 5-6 year development periods but they release broken games riddled with bugs most of the time.