Doesn't matter if they don't have Sony first party games. I'm way too invested in the PS eco system anyway. I have too many games and trophies and i'm not leaving that unless i have to.
Your personal breaking point for Playstation.
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Doesn't matter if they don't have Sony first party games. I'm way too invested in the PS eco system anyway. I have too many games and trophies and i'm not leaving that unless i have to.
Clear, and what if Playstation would port games to Mark Cerny box. Just like the current pc strategy?
Would you switch then?
I'm playing devil's advocate here. I'm trying to envision a hypothetical situation where a real competitor could emerge against PlayStation.
Currently, I can't see how anyone could catch up, as PlayStation is so far ahead. They are currently not dominanting but even pushing gaming forward with: ssd, 3D audio, VR gaming, the Pro console, an innovative controller, great games
and they have the nostalgia factor.
So even if you would find you breaking point, where would you go to?
One of the most delusional posts ever. Pushing gaming forward with a bunch of irrelevant shit or stuff that everyone else has.
They could have dominated and pushed the VR space into the mainstream and decided not to even bother. Such a waste of potential and a waste of a mahoosive revenue stream.
Ah, I see you're still shocked and salty because of Nadella's statement yesterday.
But please enlighten us then. Make a actual point. What features are irrelevant, and what features do others already have? Let's go through this point by point.
It's rough out there. Linux and NVIDIA don't seem to mix well. I tried, I really wanted it to work, but they keep breaking the drivers, forcing you to fix them repeatedly. When it's your main PC, you have to deal with drivers breaking and being stuck at the lowest resolution until you fix it. Sometimes it's as easy(linux easy, so not easy at all) as reinstalling the drivers, but you can also end up being forced to reinstall the entire system.AMD GPUs didn't have these driver issues, but they're stepping away from the high-end segment.
Another issue for couch gaming is that the icons and mouse/keyboard setup don't work well.
So while it can work, it's not a smooth experience, and getting a GPU that runs 4K smoothly isn't cheap.
Then we have 'stuttergate' and the crash-to-desktop issues. Combined with the driver problem. It felt like a second job.
Everyone has ssds
I'll give you 3D audio but it's not a big deal
VR gaming is a huge flop
Pro will flop
an innovative controller this would be cool but guess what? every playstation game needs to be on PC so not even our first party devs do much with it
great games better than microsoft much worse than Nintendo and again no exclusives at all
Try again with Linux, it's come a long way. I used intel CPU and AMD GPU but so far so good.
Since the Steam deck was made, valve have created a programme that converts all games to run on Proton (the steam deck OS) that is Linux based.
Any game that runs on steam deck works on Linux.
Mint and Ubuntu are the best options with the ability to make icons big on screen.
Linux isn't perfect, for sure, but for steam gaming, watching media and internet browsing, it is quicker, smoother and more enjoyable than Windows.
- Gran Turismo VR is a huge deal.
- The Pro is even being pre ordered by the biggest online Xbox stans. Hilarious videos trying to justify that.
Some games like the ff7 rebirth and dragon dogma seem to be made for the pro. The upgrade for dragon dogma 2 seems like new generation remake.
- The industry won't support the controler is talking point from before the console launched.
How many Nintendo games did you play last years?
I'm not sure what prompted that but I don't use windows, switched around 2010 to Linux.
Unfortunately, that does not "convert" games. They just put significant research into an emulation layer to run Windows games on Linux.
Better than nothing, but still a poor long term solution.
Personal breaking point for me is being
1) PS5 Pro price showing Phil Spencer's massive failures made Sony bullish to the point of ending the subsidized hardware model.
2) The ridiculously high non-American tax Sony is charging everyone on the PS5 Pro and especially the bluray drive (that they know is instrumental for most of their enthusiast clients).
If Sony is treating me like a stupid pay pig because I'm less represented by internet reviewers and influencers, then I'm not really interested in being their client.
If you're only catering for American customers, then you better hope those customers are enough to bring you the "infinite growth".
3) Most of their 1st party games are getting ever-increasing amounts of wokeness. Astro Bot and Helldivers 2 are a breadth of fresh air, but they're becoming a minority.
The one that's been pushing me away the most from my PS5 and its games is definitely #2. Honestly it's like being spat in the face. Well fuck you too, Totoki.
1) PS5 Pro price showing Phil Spencer's massive failures made Sony bullish to the point of ending the subsidized hardware model.
2) The ridiculously high non-American tax Sony is charging everyone on the PS5 Pro and especially the bluray drive (that they know is instrumental for most of their enthusiast clients).
If Sony is treating me like a stupid pay pig because I'm less represented by internet reviewers and influencers, then I'm not really interested in being their client.
If you're only catering for American customers, then you better hope those customers are enough to bring you the "infinite growth".
3) Most of their 1st party games are getting ever-increasing amounts of wokeness. Astro Bot and Helldivers 2 are a breadth of fresh air, but they're becoming a minority.
The one that's been pushing me away the most from my PS5 and its games is definitely #2. Honestly it's like being spat in the face. Well fuck you too, Totoki.
If all the first party game coming to PC like Xbox
Then feck playstation
Il go with PC + Nintendo
Then feck playstation
Il go with PC + Nintendo
3) is unfortunately a industry-wide issue, at least in the west. Even japanese games are slowly starting to get there. See Dragon Quest HD 2D censorship and "Type A"/"Type B" gender selection.
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