Your personal breaking point for Playstation.

akira__

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Everyone has ssds
I'll give you 3D audio but it's not a big deal
VR gaming is a huge flop
Pro will flop
an innovative controller this would be cool but guess what? every playstation game needs to be on PC so not even our first party devs do much with it
great games better than microsoft much worse than Nintendo and again no exclusives at all

We are still waiting on which switch games you played on the switch last year.

And switch games are so good that they make playstation games much worse.

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Gediminas

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I think gaming as whole is much less exciting. Maybe I am getting older.
Regardless of PC ports, Spider-Man 2 was kind of boring, but Astro is fun though.
99% of GaaS games are shit. I don't even touch these games anymore.
The future of Playstation/ gaming is for the modern audience who love Fortnite, Pubg, and purple hair She/shim. It's not definitely my final years. PS5 pro is likely my last console purchase.
I do have to agree. Gaming going into the gutter. Too much woke nonsense on top, Suits and bean counters running the show.
Very little left people in gaming, who still understand entertainment and escapism.
Everything feels the same, like most of the stuff made at factory despite different companies.
Still, there is some few gems every year but nothing like previously, where almost all genres got top game.
 
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Killer_Sakoman

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I do have to agree. Gaming going into the gutter. Too much woke nonsense on top Suit and bean counters running the show.
Very little left people in gaming, who still understand entertainment and escapism.
Everything feels the same, like most of the stuff made in fabric despite different companies.
Still, there is some few gems every year but nothing like previously, where almost all genres got top game.
I miss the mixture AA and AAA. I miss the old 15/20 hour single player campaigns. I miss stories that are entertaining and not pushing agends.
Now, even if you are excited for a game, it turns out 10000 hour long with 500000000 KM big maps, and save my mom / collect this and that side missions.
 

Landiri

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I do have to agree. Gaming going into the gutter. Too much woke nonsense on top Suit and bean counters running the show.
Very little left people in gaming, who still understand entertainment and escapism.
Everything feels the same, like most of the stuff made in fabric despite different companies.
Still, there is some few gems every year but nothing like previously, where almost all genres got top game.
Sorry, but have to hard disagree here.

Those complaints usually come from the "Cod/Fifa" Crowd, who only care about games with "gud graphics" and big marketing Budgets.
Basically Interactive Movies.

Literally everytime i hear or read complaints like this (online and offline) it comes from the very same people, who play and care for nothing else but the same few games, that they claim they hate, yet talk about and even play everyday non-stop.
 

Gediminas

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Sorry, but have to hard disagree here.

Those complaints usually come from the "Cod/Fifa" Crowd, who only care about games with "gud graphics" and big marketing Budgets.
Basically Interactive Movies.

Literally everytime i hear or read complaints like this (online and offline) it comes from the very same people, who play and care for nothing else but the same few games, that they claim they hate, yet talk about and even play everyday non-stop.
i don't play neither of those. so you are wrong.
 
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He already said he will design PS6.
And it will be his last console unless he changes mind.

So probably won’t be there for PS6 Pro.
Mark Cerny not being around after PlayStation 6 makes a lot of sense he probably saw the writing on the wall that consoles are slowly being fazed out
 

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Regurgitated crap from the Wii U and Wii.

Wanna play that game then Sony averages more than that when it chucks PS1 and PS2 ports on PS Plus each month.
if your gonna throw classic in there then Nintendo still wins because they have more classics from more systems.
NES, SNES, N64, GB/GBC, GBA, and Sega Genesis.
Nintendo is even bringing regional exclusives from their past systems to new regions like F-Zero Climax

Also PlayStation is in no position to be bragging about having more new games.
In a little less than 4 years of PS5 we have had:
Demons Souls Remake
Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut
Death Stranding Director's Cut
Spider-Man Remastered with changed face Peter Parker
The Last of Us Part I
The Last of Us Part II remastered
Uncharted 4 and Lost Legacy Remastered
Until Dawn Remake
and by the end of thus month Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered
Also if were gonna include Super Mario RPG on the Switch remake list the we have to include Final Fantasy VII Intergrade and Final Fantasy Rebirth for PS5 as well

Also don't forget the early years of the PS4 was filled with nothing but remasters as well:
Gravity Rush
TearAway
Flower
Journey
The unfinished swan
The Last of Us
Uncharted Nathan Drake Collection
God of War 3 remastered
Heavy Rain and Beyond Two Souls
Ultra Street Fighter IV
FF7 PS1 remastered
Heck the big holiday game for PS4 in 2014 was Grand Theft Auto V remastered that Sony paid the marketing for
Also a lot of the PS Vita line up was remasters as well: Sly Collection, God of War Collection, Ratchet and Clank Collection, Jak and Daxter Collection, Grim Fandango remastered (Also on PS4), Day of the Tentacle (Also on PS4)

At least most of Nintendo's remakes are from 20 years ago
Paper Mario TTYD and Mario vs Donkey Kong were 2004 games
And Luigi's Mansion 2 is a remaster of an early 2013 3DS game. Sony is remaking games that haven't even hit a decade yet like TLOU Pt1 and Until Dawn just to have something for the TV shows of those franchises.

Majority Regurgitated crap.
That's factually not true, that list has more new games than remasters and remakes but the "crap" from the Wii and Wii U are selling way better than the stuff Sony is bringing back from the PS4 era. Look at the tiny sales from Death Standing Director's Cut, and GOT Director's cut compared to Link's Awakening Remake or Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze Deluxe. Don't get me started on New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe or Mario Kart 8 on switch.
 

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Yes, they come from the crowd that wants to play Videogames.
Yup, same old familiar bullshit from the same console warriors. "Style over substance", "walking simulator", "interactive movie", etc. etc.

It's old and tired nonsense that the people who really play videogames can recognize a mile away.

It's okay, you don't have to act like a snob who gatekeeps what other people should be allowed to enjoy.
 

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That's factually not true, that list has more new games than remasters and remakes but the "crap" from the Wii and Wii U are selling way better than the stuff Sony is bringing back from the PS4 era. Look at the tiny sales from Death Standing Director's Cut, and GOT Director's cut compared to Link's Awakening Remake or Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze Deluxe. Don't get me started on New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe or Mario Kart 8 on switch.

Why are sales relevant?

Crap is crap.
 

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Why are sales relevant?

Crap is crap.
Because you think it is crap and your opinion is irrelevant like what you think of RE4.
Sony had no problem putting climbing parts all over death stranding and horizon forbidden west after BOTW did it so that means those games are crap right?
Sackboy's Big Adventure copied the hell out of Super Mario 3D world which was a Wii U game so that game is crap right?
Astrobot took a lot of notes from Super Mario Galaxy so that game is crap right?
Sony had no problem paying for exclusivity for Foamstars which heavily borrowed from Splatoon.

Hell almost every Sony first part game was inspired by RE4's Cinematic Over the should camera so that should mean you can throw Day's Gone, The Last of Us, and The God of War PS4 games in there right?


So all those are crap right?
Well that is up to the opinion of the player and just because you consider a game crap does not make it the general consensus.
However the fact that people would rather buy Nintendo games than PlayStation games does show that the market prefers Nintendo overall.

You are acting like Nintendo made Concord or something
 

Muddasar

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Because you think it is crap and your opinion is irrelevant like what you think of RE4.
Sony had no problem putting climbing parts all over death stranding and horizon forbidden west after BOTW did it so that means those games are crap right?
Sackboy's Big Adventure copied the hell out of Super Mario 3D world which was a Wii U game so that game is crap right?
Astrobot took a lot of notes from Super Mario Galaxy so that game is crap right?
Sony had no problem paying for exclusivity for Foamstars which heavily borrowed from Splatoon.

Hell almost every Sony first part game was inspired by RE4's Cinematic Over the should camera so that should mean you can throw Day's Gone, The Last of Us, and The God of War PS4 games in there right?


So all those are crap right?
Well that is up to the opinion of the player and just because you consider a game crap does not make it the general consensus.
However the fact that people would rather buy Nintendo games than PlayStation games does show that the market prefers Nintendo overall.

You are acting like Nintendo made Concord or something

You are just yapping.

Where did I even mention what the hell you said?

Honestly.
 

RE4-City

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You are just yapping.

Where did I even mention what the hell you said?

Honestly.
Well, I see you can't back up your statements about the Wii and Wii U games being crap besides "Because I said so"
 

akira__

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the "crap" from the Wii and Wii U are selling way better than the stuff Sony is bringing back from the PS4 era. Look at the tiny sales from Death Standing Director's Cut, and GOT Director's cut compared to Link's Awakening Remake or Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze Deluxe. Don't get me started on New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe or Mario Kart 8 on switch.

Not sure if it was intentional, but you employed a classic "moving the goalposts" fallacy.
The discussion isn't centered solely on sales. Your Nintendo examples are decade-old games marketed primarily to children.
You also employed a second tactic by focusing only on PlayStation games. PlayStation has always thrived by creating an ecosystem where third-party developers can flourish - examples include Resident Evil and high-selling yearly sports games and shooters. Nintendo does the opposite by focusing on first-party titles.

During the ABK deal proceedings and in court documents, it was established that the Switch is not in the same market as the PS5/Series X.
Listing games that run worse than PS4 titles to claim Nintendo has won...
 

Muddasar

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Not sure if it was intentional, but you employed a classic "moving the goalposts" fallacy.
The discussion isn't centered solely on sales. Your Nintendo examples are decade-old games marketed primarily to children.
You also employed a second tactic by focusing only on PlayStation games. PlayStation has always thrived by creating an ecosystem where third-party developers can flourish - examples include Resident Evil and high-selling yearly sports games and shooters. Nintendo does the opposite by focusing on first-party titles.

During the ABK deal proceedings and in court documents, it was established that the Switch is not in the same market as the PS5/Series X.
Listing games that run worse than PS4 titles to claim Nintendo has won...

He does that with every post.
 

RE4-City

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Not sure if it was intentional, but you employed a classic "moving the goalposts" fallacy.
The discussion isn't centered solely on sales. Your Nintendo examples are decade-old games marketed primarily to children.
You also employed a second tactic by focusing only on PlayStation games. PlayStation has always thrived by creating an ecosystem where third-party developers can flourish - examples include Resident Evil and high-selling yearly sports games and shooters. Nintendo does the opposite by focusing on first-party titles.

During the ABK deal proceedings and in court documents, it was established that the Switch is not in the same market as the PS5/Series X.
Listing games that run worse than PS4 titles to claim Nintendo has won...
no the discussion was what finding out what makes something crap?
If sales aren't the answer then we are just gonna sit here and say "well this game sucks because I don't like it"
Well it's time to grow up and realize just because you don't like something doesn't make it "crap"
stuff like concord flopping so hard to the point it shut down only two weeks after launch should send a message about what the market thinks of it