I have a job
I buy the games like an adult
I like running the Switch games I own on Yuzu
that is not illegal
stop being jelly that I'm running ToTK at 4K 120 FPS
yuzu will pay $2.4 million in damages to Nintendo to settle their lawsuit
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I buy the games like an adult
I like running the Switch games I own on Yuzu
that is not illegal
stop being jelly that I'm running ToTK at 4K 120 FPS
Complete coincidence that the biggest Sony port beggar is also advocating for piracy.
I always thought this was pretty clear cut: an emulator existing is not a problem, tons of them exist without a problem. An emulator or the group of people creating it not only providing information on how to pirate games but how to obtain said stuff... Yeah, that's the problem.
Just look at how many Nintendo related emulators exist and have existed for well over a decade without a problem.
I always thought this was pretty clear cut: an emulator existing is not a problem, tons of them exist without a problem. An emulator or the group of people creating it not only providing information on how to pirate games but how to obtain said stuff... Yeah, that's the problem.
Just look at how many Nintendo related emulators exist and have existed for well over a decade without a problem.
This is a pretty flimsy justification. Yuzu wasn't targeted because people provided information (not illegal) but because it's the biggest Switch emulator. If the issue is people providing information, please tell me how this stops that? Those people can go into an emulation discord, or make a website, or post on Twitter, and keep doing exactly that. So "the problem" with Yuzu distinct from other emulators won't go away or change, pretty emasculated outcome for the anti-emulation crowd here.
@Dr Bass has provided more than enough information. This conversation keeps going around in circles because people didn't bother to read what he mentioned.
This covers it. Until people understand that this is beyond just "creating an emulator" this conversation won't move forward.
This is probably mandarin, I'm sure.
arstechnica.com
This is probably Cantonese
arstechnica.com
Had they not done these very stupid things and they would be fine, like many other emulators. But they had to try and be smarter by literally posting guides on how to pirate. That's why they got fucked.
Switch emulator makers agree to pay $2.4 million to settle Nintendo lawsuit
Yuzu devs shut down emulator they now say is "primarily designed" to break DRM.
arstechnica.com
This is probably Cantonese
How strong is Nintendo’s legal case against Switch-emulator Yuzu?
Nintendo is "basically taking the position that emulation itself is unlawful."
arstechnica.com
Had they not done these very stupid things and they would be fine, like many other emulators. But they had to try and be smarter by literally posting guides on how to pirate. That's why they got fucked.
None of what is covered in that post has anything to do with the comment I replied to.@Dr Bass has provided more than enough information. This conversation keeps going around in circles because people didn't bother to read what he mentioned.
This covers it. Until people understand that this is beyond just "creating an emulator" this conversation won't move forward.
It does though? It's very simple: they got fucked for the same reasons Dr Bass mentioned. But I pulled some more info.
yuzu will pay $2.4 million in damages to Nintendo to settle their lawsuit
Nintendo has every right to protect their copyright and IP from PC pirates. I really hope the law is reformed to outright ban emulators so you pirates can stop using this flimsy argument. Just get a job and buy the games like an adult. I have a job I buy the games like an adult I like...
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A rule as old as time: if you're providing an emulator, you don't provide instructions on where to get your roms, your firmware, and how to hack into games. You provide the emulator and that's it.
Nintendo could have targeted all they wanted, but similar to dolphin, they would have not sued them because they would have nothing to stand on. Zero. They could threaten, he'll they could have their CEO call them out in public, but they would do fuck all
@Dr Bass has provided more than enough information. This conversation keeps going around in circles because people didn't bother to read what he mentioned.
This covers it. Until people understand that this is beyond just "creating an emulator" this conversation won't move forward.
Most of that is innuendo, mocking us for not knowing their obvious evils but not saying what the evils are. Nothing in that snippet would be illegal even if true.
Reading about the lawsuit. There is case after case here talking about how Yuzu discouraged TotK on Yuzu discussion, and that they took all the normal precautions against supporting "piracy". Nintendo doesn't allege anything beyond it either. They are using weaselly tech jargon like "decryption" incorrectly to spread the false idea that Yuzu has violated Nintendo DMCA protections. It's not the case. Ultimately Nintendo's beef boils down to the emulation is too good.
Nintendo takes Switch emulator Yuzu to court in major lawsuit, alleging it fueled 1 million illegal downloads of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom before release
Yuzu creator Tropic Haze is the latest target of Nintendo's legal team
Most of that is innuendo, mocking us for not knowing their obvious evils but not saying what the evils are. Nothing in that snippet would be illegal even if true.
Reading about the lawsuit. There is case after case here talking about how Yuzu discouraged TotK on Yuzu discussion, and that they took all the normal precautions against supporting "piracy". Nintendo doesn't allege anything beyond it either. They are using weaselly tech jargon like "decryption" incorrectly to spread the false idea that Yuzu has violated Nintendo DMCA protections. It's not the case. Ultimately Nintendo's beef boils down to the emulation is too good.
Nintendo takes Switch emulator Yuzu to court in major lawsuit, alleging it fueled 1 million illegal downloads of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom before release
Yuzu creator Tropic Haze is the latest target of Nintendo's legal teamwww.gamesradar.com
Why do you have such a vendetta against Nintendo?
They actually pirated games themselves for usage in debugging and improving their emulator so it's ready for big releases like Super Mario Wonder or TOTK.
You would expect the games to release first then the emulator takes weeks or months to get the games working decently on there, but these guys got it done in record time, how could that happen except through the usage of illegal copies?
Read the documents it's all in there.
EDIT: The other thing is, the Bleem case indeed makes emulators legal, but the newer consoles have complex software encryptions in place, and breaking those is a federal offense under the DMCA (with fair use exceptions as determined by the Library of Congress). Even decrypting your own personal copy is illegal under the DMCA.
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Running the game ilegally on pc ( you arent suppose to play game like zelda tok or mario wonders on pc cos nintendo dont officially release the game on that platform)
Advocating his viewers to follow to do the same
Getting patreon money from it
Absolutely in the wrong this yuzu guy
Do you think MS should take the position that Proton is illegal because "you aren't supposed to play game like halo or starfield on linux cos MS don't officially release the game on that platform"?
Their IP their rules, let the company decide Wether or not it's okay.
You are not Johnny Silverhand taking down the "Big Evil Corporations"
"you arent suppose to play game on pc cos nintendo dont officially release the game on that platform"
Oh what a compelling, well thought out, big-brained reply.
SCEA v Connectix and SCEA v Bleem are legal precedent that say you are wrong.
Same goes for Lewis Galoob v Nintendo.
Emulation.
Is.
Legal.
That decryption can fall under fair use just like the use of a BIOS dump, for the same reason. Even if the Nintendo lawyers could successfully argue that it didn't, it's up to the user to acquire the decryption keys. The emulator developer can't be held responsible for that.
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Well actually yes it is a well thought out big brained reply cos the correct way to play mario wonders, zelda tok etc are on nintendo system
GitHub - Crimson-Hawk/suyu
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GitHub - Crimson-Hawk/suyu
Contribute to Crimson-Hawk/suyu development by creating an account on GitHub.
The reason emulators must be open source.
One of the things Nintendo got out of Yuzu in the settlement was an admission that their product violates the DMCA.
GitHub - Crimson-Hawk/suyu
Contribute to Crimson-Hawk/suyu development by creating an account on GitHub.
This basically makes that settlement a win button in the fight to kill all those cloned repos.