Fully playable Wolverine PC build circulating 😬😥😥 PhD plus DMCA notices to ppl who downloaded.
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No clue, probably the latter, Factions 2 and Deviations game both imploded on their own. But a wins a win
Lmao, no
The piracy during the ps1-ps3 error was worse than what we are seeing with this one lil game.
Damn near every ps1 and ps2 game can be booted on a pc back then.
I still would've liked some sort of TLoU Part 2 multiplayer, sad.No clue, probably the latter, Factions 2 and Deviations game both imploded on their own. But a wins a win
Pirates aren't desirable costumers, see Nintendo. Switch would be doing even better if their games were not easily emulated on PC or pirated on their own console.
Sony does not value regular PlayStation costumers like they should and instead caters to PC players a lot more in an attempt to capture them. Huge mistake.
Sony should realize how good they have it. Piracy on PS5 isn't widespread and close to non existent, they have a consistent 100m+ base of costumers that are happy to buy their games. To them that is not enough, they deluded themselves into thinking PC players are going to be buying PlayStation games in any significant amount and can't face reality.
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Serves them right. Sucks for Insomniac but Sony's upper management? Fuck them
Sonys own fault for putting titles on a competitor platform
Sony should look at there success from the previous generations and Nintendo.
They did more than fine without PC. Invest more into what made you a power house.
PS fans should be the only priority for Sony
Sony should look at there success from the previous generations and Nintendo.
They did more than fine without PC. Invest more into what made you a power house.
PS fans should be the only priority for Sony
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Me too, but not in a gaas format with seasons and battle passes. It sucks but overall it’s for the best, ND should’ve never let it get to that point.
And to think, this is the community Sony believes will bring in "free money" and profit growth.
Yeah, they'll bring "free" something...as in that Sony content for free...illegally. Massive fail the PC initiative has turned out to be; look at how these people blatantly disrespect their own work.
Do you even remember how weak the average PC was back in the day to even somewhat run those PS1 or PS2 games? How ubiquitous do you think those pirated copies got around? What, you think fiber and cable internet were the standard in 1997? 2002? You think millions of people were using forums to get games illegally?
You're just applying modern-day tech and internet culture to a period where NONE of the things we take for granted now, even stuff like CD or DVD burners, were common even among pirates. And only in certain countries where the laws were extremely lax, was piracy particularly big. But those countries in and of themselves weren't major markets at the time, not by a long shot.
It's funny how people like you will try saying piracy killed the Dreamcast, yet in the same breath say piracy was severely rampant with PS1, PS2 or PS3 and yet those console not only survived yet thrived. By your logic, PlayStation should've died decades ago if the piracy were as bad as you try implying.
Also funny to act like the piracy involved with this game, isn't with a group directly benefiting from an illegal ransomware attack that stole private employee data for blackmail purposes.
Yeah, they'll bring "free" something...as in that Sony content for free...illegally. Massive fail the PC initiative has turned out to be; look at how these people blatantly disrespect their own work.
Do you even remember how weak the average PC was back in the day to even somewhat run those PS1 or PS2 games? How ubiquitous do you think those pirated copies got around? What, you think fiber and cable internet were the standard in 1997? 2002? You think millions of people were using forums to get games illegally?
You're just applying modern-day tech and internet culture to a period where NONE of the things we take for granted now, even stuff like CD or DVD burners, were common even among pirates. And only in certain countries where the laws were extremely lax, was piracy particularly big. But those countries in and of themselves weren't major markets at the time, not by a long shot.
It's funny how people like you will try saying piracy killed the Dreamcast, yet in the same breath say piracy was severely rampant with PS1, PS2 or PS3 and yet those console not only survived yet thrived. By your logic, PlayStation should've died decades ago if the piracy were as bad as you try implying.
Also funny to act like the piracy involved with this game, isn't with a group directly benefiting from an illegal ransomware attack that stole private employee data for blackmail purposes.
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Just my 2 cents in something here...
It doesn't matter if the game has a PC release or not.
Hackers got the hands on the source code of the game made in a PC (all games are made in a PC including PlayStation first-parties) and that should happen no matter if a PC version exists or not.
We are in the same logic here? All games are create on PC.
When we blame the PC strategy and the thinking of developers makes games with PC in mind that means games will have common code path that runs good on PS5 and PC... and that is harm to PS5 because he should be using a code path best for PS5 even if it runs slow in PC.
They should not care if the PS5 code path should give them more working time / trouble to optimize to PC later.
But the game will always run on PC because it was created there.
So Sony PC strategy has no point here.
It doesn't matter if the game has a PC release or not.
Hackers got the hands on the source code of the game made in a PC (all games are made in a PC including PlayStation first-parties) and that should happen no matter if a PC version exists or not.
We are in the same logic here? All games are create on PC.
When we blame the PC strategy and the thinking of developers makes games with PC in mind that means games will have common code path that runs good on PS5 and PC... and that is harm to PS5 because he should be using a code path best for PS5 even if it runs slow in PC.
They should not care if the PS5 code path should give them more working time / trouble to optimize to PC later.
But the game will always run on PC because it was created there.
So Sony PC strategy has no point here.
The thing is, nowadays some PC games are starting to require SSD, so in the short term ports of PS5 only games will be able to do it without leaving a too big PC userbase behind.People with common sense were warning that PS5 games would be affected badly. The PS5 hardware would not be fully utilized because first party will have to worry about the different configurations of PC hardware. There are PC users still using HDD’s. Sony developers are not going to use PS5 SSD the way it can be used because they now have to take into account HDD’s. Which if fucking backwards and makes no sense to invest all that custom hardware into the SSD that’s now going to waste.
I spoke about this in this thread about Naughty Dog changing their engine to support PC
Naughty Dog confirms PC will be in their development pipeline going forward
Some games will have more room on high end hardware. That's not all games as several can't achieve higher than 60fps without DLSS. You guys...sigh "You guys" - you mean actual multiplatform gamers? Honestly I love PC gaming, but PCMR zealots that feel the need to state it's superiority is...icon-era.com
Including part of the PC specific stuff in their engine it's only to highly reduce the time needed in future ports that very likely they will make. Stuff like widescreen or DLSS support, extra controls support, steam achievements, etc. it only means to copy paste a few things from the first ports of games using that engine to the engine itself, so in future ports won't need to do it. That code won't be used in PS5 builds/exclusive games, they don't care if it's there.
Yes, even the mobile games or VR games are made in PC and have a (non portable, non VR) PC debug builds to test and prototype stuff quickly and to don't require everyone in the team have to export a build to the device where will be sold or to have each one of them access to these devices.
Having a PC build of a game doesn't mean it will be released on PC or to do it day one. Because very likely that PC build misses a lot of PC specific things that a commercial PC build needs and also misses platform specific stuff only available where the game is released.
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So it was the Playstation community who hacked and leaked GTA6 material? They haven't announced a PC build so it couldn't have been PC gamers.
People calling for the game to be canceled need to STFU. I want to play this game when it comes out. Insomniac will get my money.
PS1,PS2 and PS3 source codes for games were being booted back then on PC years before release?
On what planet were you living on?
The first PS1 emulators for PC were the PSEmu and Bleem which released in the late 90s.
The end of the PS1 and they weren’t 100% compatible or accurate.
The PCSX2 and The RPCS3 were the first PS2 and PS3 emulators which came several years after the consoles were released.
Only now after 20 years does the PCSX2 have 99% compatibility.
The RPCS3 is still hit and miss after 15 years.
I don’t think it’s coming from Japan at all. It’s definitely came from Jim or Hermen or both. But most likely Hermen. Since they’ve taken over they acquired 2 studios that have day 1 PC ports in Haven and Firewalk. Hermen did a co interview with both founders when they were acquired. The Deviation game was also day 1 PC. Which Hermen was also very on board for. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that he was extremely enthusiastic about all these PC focused studios.
And they also acquired Nixxes, a PC port studio that’s located right next to Hermens old studio….
Horizon was the first 1st party game to be ported as well. Death Stranding was 2nd party. And Hermen/Guerilla gave Kojima the Decima engine, which opened the flood gates for PC ports.
All signs point to Hermen Hulst being the culprit. I think Jim just kind of trusted in his decisions and blindly followed him.
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Interesting. It all adds up yeah.
Herman Hulst was also one that said PC ports of single player games would happen a year after PS5 version. Then a couple months later Jim Ryan mentioned than people feel the best timeframe for PS5 games is 2 to 3 years later on PC.
So it seems maybe Hulst is leading the dumb PC charge and Jim Ryan is going with it and choosing the how long of a wait are the PC ports.
With a bunch of canceled gaas games, no PC port of a PlayStation game announced in awhile, and no TLOU2 PC port, let’s hope Sony came to their senses finally.
Leaked Wolverine running on PC right now would not be happening without Hulst.
Sony first party games have PC as the lead platform from the looks of things.
Horizon Forbidden West was just announced for PC a few months ago. The window now is less than 2 years for their biggest single player games and day 1 for GaaS. Two years from now God of War Ragnarok, Spider-man 2, FFVII Rebirth, FFXVI will all have already been released on PC. What will PS5 even have as actual exclusives(even just temporary) at that point?
One thing people don't seem to take in consideration is that what we have had so far were ports of games that were not initially made thinking about a future PC port and what we have now as we could see from the leak are game developed as PC games from the start, making it a lot more tempting for Sony in terms of short term profit to just release it on PC closer to the PS5 release.
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The issue is that Sony then took similar stance for ALL their traditional games, not just the Marvel ones. See: Horizon Forbidden West.
Altho again, Sony 100% don't need PC for a game like X-Men to sell 6 million copies in its first year. Only if Disney/Marvel fuk up X-Men in the MCU SO badly that they suck away any enthusiasm, would an X-Men game from Insomniac/SIE even risk not reaching 6 million on PlayStation alone in its first year.
Smells to me the problem here might be Disney/Marvel...
Yeap.
But if they want to stop it they can for others first-party games but not Marvel licensed ones.
That is my point.
Well at least until the last Marvel game in the contract… after that Sony and Marcel
Needs to make a new.
The contract assures that no Xbox port will exists until the last game release (X-man DLC I believe after 2030?).
IMO Wony did a great contract.
They compromised on PC (that was something they already wanted to do hehe) and put Xbox out for like 3 IPs with several games
Xbox probably is not having the same lucky with their Blade contract
Say what you want but Jumbo knows business.
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