Sony Downplays the Risk of PlayStation Users Switching to PCs in a Recent Q&A.

Old Gamer

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Are us in the same forum or the Doomers and Gloomers are starting to change narratives?

Or perhaps only Sony is doomed while PS5 not?

Too confusing to be a doomer.
No, you liars, there is no narrative change. Stop misrepresenting others!
 
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Gods&Monsters

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It might not affect the console sales (yet) but their first-party sales took a nosedive this year. Flop after flop, the kind the industry never saw before. Sony is on another level in the flopping category.

They couldn't even sell 2 millions in over 2 months of a 94 meta GOTY frontrunner. This is just sad. They will never hit the highs of the PS4 era.
 

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It might not affect the console sales (yet) but their first-party sales took a nosedive this year. Flop after flop, the kind the industry never saw before. Sony is on another level in the flopping category.

They couldn't even sell 2 millions in over 2 months of a 94 meta GOTY frontrunner. This is just sad. They will never hit the highs of the PS4 era.


You don’t want PC ports and complain about sales too this year.

Yet the best selling Sony launch game EVER is Helldivers 2 with PC contributing over half of sales.

Arguably the best game this year which is PS5 exclusive sold garbage according to you.

You can’t it both ways.
 
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Boswollox

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Nah mate Sony is lying.

Just like they were lying about PS5 Pro launch sales being better than PS4 Pro.

You're lying again and being disingenuous. It was never about the pro but the base consoles.
Ok, it ends here
If @Boswollox provides his source, you will be banned. If he fails, he will be banned.
Mods, please prepare to ban either.
I'm happy with this. I'm off out for a few hours to touch grass. I'll jump on my pc when I get back because searching while phone posting is no fun.

Next time I reply I will with the sources, or ask for an account closure. The rules are fair and just.
 

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You're lying again and being disingenuous. It was never about the pro but the base consoles.

I'm happy with this. I'm off out for a few hours to touch grass. I'll jump on my pc when I get back because searching while phone posting is no fun.

Next time I reply I will with the sources, or ask for an account closure. The rules are fair and just.

Don’t be so dramatic.

Just provide a source to back up your claim.

Supposedly this forum assured you that PS5 sales were launched aligned with PS4.

As though you are a Sony investor and this forum has its own independent sales tracking lied to you.
 

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They couldn't even sell 2 millions in over 2 months of a 94 meta GOTY frontrunner. This is just sad.
When the next 3D Mario will score a 97 people will go out and buy a Switch 2 for it because they have no choice. Astro Bot was great but it's just a timed exclusive and then when they will port it next year sales won't be good anyway. But SURELY Astro Bot 2 on PS6 and PC day and date will do better.
 

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Do people not find it strange that in the same week any bad or weak/mid news comes out about a platform there is instant push back from the other side with a
"no you"
"there all the same"
"bla bla will follow"
"XBOX is doomed!"
"Its ok because Sony will follow!"
"Just get a PC!"

Every single time, I understand people have there opinions yet insulting each other is not the correct way of thinking and also anyone acting like they KNOW what is or will happen, can not know the truth of what any of the companies are thinking or doing, unless you are in the boardroom making the decisions.
Can you guess? Have a Opinion? Yes. But that's just it, So talk to each other with at least some respect and if you do not agree its simple put them on ignore.

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Also unless you can prove something one way or another don't try to come at someone else if you can not back up the claims
Sony is lying? Ok prove it.
Xbox is lying? Ok prove it.
Nintendo is lying? Ok prove it.
Same with any companies you think you are right about.
 

Neversummer

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PS5 user LTV is $622

Even if they only lost a million users, they will never make close to that money back on Steam game sales

Only a fool would consider losing far higher revenue users to not be an issue
I mean when a investor question Herman about the pc port diminishment towards the PS hardware, storefront & entire ecosystem Herman brushed off the concern w a small non answer & went to the next question
 

Neversummer

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A group of people have moved to a competing platform.
Said platform isn't as plug and play as consoles and requires effort.
Said group have opted to choose WEAKER and MORE DIFFICULT hardware as their platform.
>Lol this is fine just doomers.
This hasn’t been said enough aswell as Sony/PS higher up questioning this.

People are choosing PC/Steam/Steamdeck that is significantly more difficult then what is a pick up & play console that should be extremely worry as it shows even for the casuals what is more difficult to play your games people are choosing more difficulty & significantly more expensive then a device that is easily pick up & play & cheaper price.

Likely chance is PS console whether it’s pricing or fun exclusive games are both lacking massively. When PS releases 1 new PS studio first party singleplayer game exclusive to PS5 like in 2023 w spiderman 2 & in 2024 only Astro bot & you see competitors like Nintendo which in the final years of the Switch lifecycle already released 4 Nintendo games it shows how contrast & dire PS5 is lacking exclusive games & how dire PS studios output is. Mind you in Nintendo golden years for switch they were at minimum releasing like 5+ Nintendo games all of them being true permanent exclusive. Even the Nintendo games Nintendo released in 2024 & 2023 will likely get a Switch 2 upgrade & because they’re exclusive Nintendo games & the action of upgrading there games for next generation will be more potent
 

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Do people not find it strange that in the same week any bad or weak/mid news comes out about a platform there is instant push back from the other side with a
"no you"
"there all the same"
"bla bla will follow"
"XBOX is doomed!"
"Its ok because Sony will follow!"
"Just get a PC!"

Every single time, I understand people have there opinions yet insulting each other is not the correct way of thinking and also anyone acting like they KNOW what is or will happen, can not know the truth of what any of the companies are thinking or doing, unless you are in the boardroom making the decisions.
Can you guess? Have a Opinion? Yes. But that's just it, So talk to each other with at least some respect and if you do not agree its simple put them on ignore.

Actually for some reason everytime that there is xbox news about going third party. The forum is filled "Sony too", "sony doomed", etc.

It's not even celebrated here even though ps just got a major new publisher and ps5 holders will be able to access content not available before.

So if anything, why is it not celebrated?
Why is Sony doomed if they just had record cod sales (according to Nadella)?

Why is atmosphere so tense? I don't remember such a tense atmosphere around Nintendo or PlayStation after Sega? Why now?
 

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Soon Herman will be saying "there are no red lines" for ports to PC and Xbox
The craziest thing is, PS spent 30 years & hundreds if not billions of dollars to make exclusive to distinguish there hardware & storefront against other competitors just to unwind all what they worked for.

It’s all contradicting because they’re exclusive Nintendo release multiplat games like Lego Horizon on competing storefront & hardware & other singleplayer games day 1 on PC but in the same vein sign exclusivity deals to block games from Xbox like wtf your spending money inherently wasting it because the whole point of spending money for exclusive games is to differ from competitors while at the same time from your own studios diminishing your hardware, storefront & business. And it has been so contradictory that long relationships like Square took note rn Square is thinking why are we signing deals to keep out games exclusive when PS themselves who has hardware, storefront & ecosystem doesn’t even believe in exclusive & releases there games multiplat on even competing storefront & hardware. I speculate more & more 3rd party to reject PS exclusivity when Switch 2 releases & has power near or exceeding PS4. W 3rd party already leaning into Nintendo because Nintendo strong & leading position in Japan & console I can see more publisher target releasing & singing deals w Nintendo to get there franchise in front of japanese gamers even trying to get into Smash. PS needs to stop signing deals to block Xbox when there already dead & needs to sign deals that block Nintendo & Vlave/Steam this is where if PS pc port & multiplayer games where exclusive to the PS PC launcher PS could sing deals where devs want to release on PC but wouldn’t mind signing deal w PS & also releasing exclusively on a PS PC launcher like Epic has done w Alan Awake.

Stellar blade, Rise of Ronin & other games could’ve released day 1 across PS5 & the PS PC launcher so by technicality the game would be on PC just under & exclusively on the PS PC launcher but if PS doesn’t make there multiplayer games exclusive to the PS PC launcher & still release on Steam a PS PC launcher will fail & die from both consumer & 3rd party support standpoint
 

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50% of their user base are happier on weaker hardware and haven't upgraded in at least four years, and this is fine?
Clear case of not enough & enticing exclusive library to entice PS4 users to get a PS5

PS4 users who are playing on weaker hardware aren’t even getting a PS5 w stronger specs & they seemingly not budging for the lack of exclusive now completely remove exclusive & now you see a large deficit & I’m not even taking account of the negative effects like ecosystem being diminished & all the profits that is brought by 3rd party publishing & mtx w a smaller install base. It’s the snake that eats its tail type of situation
 

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The craziest thing is, PS spent 30 years & hundreds if not billions of dollars to make exclusive to distinguish there hardware & storefront against other competitors just to unwind all what they worked for.

It’s all contradicting because they’re exclusive Nintendo release multiplat games like Lego Horizon on competing storefront & hardware & other singleplayer games day 1 on PC but in the same vein sign exclusivity deals to block games from Xbox like wtf your spending money inherently wasting it because the whole point of spending money for exclusive games is to differ from competitors while at the same time from your own studios diminishing your hardware, storefront & business.
The thing is there are two CEOs at PS now. Hermen - first party studios. Nishino - ps hardware, ps network, 3-party relations.
Hermen and his team are doing all the multiplatform ports with PS Studios. While Nishino and his team are working with 3-party moneyhats/deals like Rebirth, Silent Hill 2, China Hero Projects etc
 
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How will this affect hardcore fans, because casuals don't care about PC gaming?
I wouldn’t necessarily say that. PC has gotten really popular w casual/kiddy type games such as Fortnite, Roblox & there’s been a tick of kids/casual audience getting a PC just cause there favorite streamer etc

Also with Valve making the Steamdeck which is & in the future will be as pick up & play as consoles Steamdeck brings the accessibility for “PC” gaming similar to consoles.