Sony signs agreement with MS to keep COD on PS

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Jim Ryan is the downfall of PlayStation. Not arguing with anyone about this fact anymore. From the failed pc port initiative, to the live service pivot and to the lack of any first party heavy hitters this whole year and next. Useless ceo
Been saying this since 2020
Him and Herman broke record sales on PS4's momentum.
 
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Well on the plus side of this Playstation now has to jump back into developing multi-player FPS games unless they're content with continuously funding Xbox's warchest and falling behind. They definitely got cocky I mean honestly who expected anyone e to break the gentleman's agreement of not buying multiplatform developers. So they're more then likely going to start playing hardball too. Downside is they don't have nearly as much money as Xbox's parent company.
 
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Dont buy cod guys

Youre just funding xbox

Theres plenty other fps games around

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It will be funny if sales of the next entry take a nosedive due to MS's ownership 😄

Decent chance the quality will take a fall due to their management anyway.
 
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Well on the plus side of this Playstation now has to jump back into developing multi-player FPS games unless they're content with continuously funding Xbox's warchest and falling behind. They definitely got cocky I mean honestly who expected anyone e to break the gentleman's agreement of not buying multiplatform developers. So they're more then likely going to start playing hardball too. Downside is they don't have nearly as much money as Xbox's parent company.

They have Killzone, Resistance, Destiny, Marathon etc

10 Years is plenty of time to develop their own COD competitor.
 
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They have Killzone, Resistance, Destiny, Marathon etc

10 Years is plenty of time to develop their own COD competitor.
Again with this shit argument. Why can't MS use those 70 billion to create their own COD competitor? They were trying for years. If halo can't do it, what makes you think any of Sony's franchises can?

It's impossible and hasn't been done since 2007, when MW released.
 
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Devil is in the details.

With that said, Fire Jim Ryan/Hermen Hulst. There is no two ways to go about it.
lol,
Some of you are going to have a hard time when the gen is done and Jim had the most successful run in SIE history as a PlayStation CEO.

Boohoo Jim did not do what you wanted him to, the man just got ms to capitulate from just 3 years of COD to 10 years of COD.
 
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You seem rather upset at me taking a dump on Jimmy? He your father in law by any chance? close relative? Or you just hate the idea of criticism of Jim " unfairly"? If there is a poster in this forum that has made an extensive case of why Jim is inappropriate SIE leadership is me. This doesn't make or break. It's just staying on message. And the massage is to get that snake oil salesman off PS. No amount of sniping by suit simps is gonna change that.

I'm sure Jimmy boy is glad to have you in his corner. And if you simp for him a tad more he may even invite you to play your favorite game with him together. You'll just have to teach him how to hold and use a game controller that's all. Sort of like the Phil gang. Online bodyguards. But mah "profit". Yes.

No safe space "negativity" free. Folks struggle with this so hard. Painful to see in a way
 
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Jim Ryan is the downfall of PlayStation. Not arguing with anyone about this fact anymore. From the failed pc port initiative, to the live service pivot and to the lack of any first party heavy hitters this whole year and next. Useless ceo
The Sony stock price is going down. This is damage control so it can recover tomorrow.

What do you want him to do? The US government and media are working against them. Literally David vs Goliath.
 

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You seem rather upset at me taking a dump on Jimmy? He your father in law by any chance? close relative? Or you just hate the idea of criticism of Jim " unfairly"? If there is a poster in this forum that has made an extensive case of why Jim is inappropriate SIE leadership is me. This doesn't make or break. It's just staying on message. And the massage is to get that snake oil salesman off PS. No amount of sniping by suit simps is gonna change that.

I'm sure Jimmy boy is glad to have you in his corner. Sort of like the Phil gang. Online bodyguards. But mah "profit". Yes. No safe space "negativity" free.
Bro you just a hater, no logic or reason to hate or blame Jim other than just to be a hater.
Jim is going to keep PS alive a lot longer than you sitting on your sofa pretending to be a video game company ceo ass. As if you know whats best for a multinational corporation, Jim secured the bag for ten years and is getting a better rev split. You will get a lot of amazing PS single player games from this.

Go sell your PS5 that Jim and Herman convinced you to buy and use it to buy a series s, have fun with gamepass.
 

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The Sony stock price is going down. This is damage control so it can recover tomorrow.

What do you want him to do? The US government and media are working against them. Literally David vs Goliath.
Exactly! The US government is bullying them and Japan. It's the fact they view Sony as hostile competition in the US. And saying Japan protects their homegrown companies, so basically the US must as well

This video clearly shows the US Republican Congress was never gonna let this merger fail, even if it meant undermining its own government FTC.

FTC was doomed from the start.

 

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The Sony stock price is going down. This is damage control so it can recover tomorrow.

What do you want him to do? The US government and media are working against them. Literally David vs Goliath.
Stock price dropped last year when the deal was announced, all the sony share holding doubters sold and dipped the fuck up out of there last year.
If the stock is dropping now its unrelated to the merger. Stocks drop because of uncertainty or when the economy adjust. Tomorrow when market opens uncertainty around COD future on PS will have subsided and will make traders buy up sony stock tomorrow cause they now know for sure that cod is staying on cod.
 
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The Sony stock price is going down. This is damage control so it can recover tomorrow.

What do you want him to do? The US government and media are working against them. Literally David vs Goliath.
If Sony can't get a hold of $30B to save their most valuable subsidiary then they deserve all that is coming to them.

If they go and acquires publishers like Capcom, Square or Sega then they secure their dominance for years to come regardless of what MS does.

Right now they look like idiots that think Fairgame$, Concord and multiplataform Marathon are going to do it for them.
 

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If Sony can't get a hold of $30B to save their most valuable subsidiary then they deserve all that is coming to them.

If they go and acquires publishers like Capcom, Square or Sega then they secure their dominance for years to come regardless of what MS does.

Right now they look like idiots that think Fairgame$, Concord and multiplataform Marathon are going to do it for them.
I think the Japanese CEO is far too conservative, there's no killer instinct
 

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Bro you just a hater, no logic or reason to hate or blame Jim other than just to be a hater.
Jim is going to keep PS alive a lot longer than you sitting on your sofa pretending to be a video game company ceo ass. As if you know whats best for a multinational corporation, Jim secured the bag for ten years and is getting a better rev split. You will get a lot of amazing PS single player games from this.

Go sell your PS5 that Jim and Herman convinced you to buy and use it to buy a series s, have fun with gamepass.
Not your bro - clearly. You're a two year old? Dealing with low IQ lingo from someone clearly upset, "triggered" as the lingo goes.

Jim is a rotational suit in a long line of suits. He's not PlayStation nor Sony. You're like the sort of idiot that says to a fellow country men that he should flee his own country of birth for criticizing the rotational president/prime minister and their administration policies. Mix that with an appeal to authority - "Jim knows best" than you peasant. Factory made fake PlayStation "patriot" virtue signaling unconditional faith like low IQ sheep. With the final touch of "go to the enemy - Xbox" "We" don't want you. Factory made headcase - perfect corporate slave. :sick:🤮

You keep crying. Online simping for Jimmy ain't gonna make it stop. And you'll just have to deal with that, for as long as you're in this forum. Today you'll go off on me, tomorrow you'll go off on someone else. It's gonna be a sad stay for you - guaranteed. There is nothing we can do with your condition, it's psychological in nature.
 
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What would you want him to do? Ban Activision games from being sold on PlayStation?

Microsoft already buried all their internal studios and IP not working on Forza. Bethesda and Activision are replacements for their previous failures.

Yes, this is Microsoft getting their hands on PlayStation revenues but that’s also the reason why neither MS, ABK or Sony want to lose those revenue streams. So the choice made today is an easy one to make. To keep making money for all parties. Restricting sales on PlayStation would hurt Sony and even their own platform agnostic ambitions.

Sony IS market leader in the console space and the PS5 a sales juggernaut. And they still have the better pedigree of talent to continue being such. However with Starfield and Diablo Sony does not have similar genres covered. That’s okay tho.

IP’s can be disregarded. Now MS have Crash and Halo… Oh wow… well Sony has the studios that actually made them. Like who gives a shit. You saw how they buried console defining Halo. Respawn happened FFS.

Even claiming that MS now has 2 top 10 games on PlayStation is funny… because none of their own games were top 10 on Xbox either. So you can make the statement about their own platform up until they bought those games’ makers.

At the end the day tho. Gamepass is so value destructive to the funding and development of AAA gaming that I’m more confident in it destroying many more studios and further talent exodus. It’s been true so far…. So… RIP Activision.

Microsoft can try and buy all the IPs and publishers it wants. Its business model is flawed and will continue to bring ruin.
 
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They have Killzone, Resistance, Destiny, Marathon etc

10 Years is plenty of time to develop their own COD competitor.

If it were that easy Microsoft would have done that themselves.

So either the truth is developing a COD competitor that's just as big is almost impossible to do intentionally, or Sony's 1P management is better enough than Microsoft's to pull the impossible off.

Which puts immediate doubt into how COD will fare under Microsoft's management going forward (which could potentially be a great thing as that would work against them making future gaming acquisitions).
 
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If Sony can't get a hold of $30B to save their most valuable subsidiary then they deserve all that is coming to them.

If they go and acquires publishers like Capcom, Square or Sega then they secure their dominance for years to come regardless of what MS does.

True. PS has to go big.
-Big on there own 1st party studios again like PS3 gen.
-Big on multiplayer games
-Big on purchasing a publisher or 2 that can save there platform for the future ( Capcom x Sega/ Square- Konami etc ) would basically secure there future. Securing IPs is the key. Or even a studio like FromSoft.

Or invest big enough so they cant get bought by MS, Tencent etc

The next year is gonna determine there future. And if they are intelligent enough to deal with it
 

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I think the Japanese CEO is far too conservative, there's no killer instinct
Sony could be the Japanese Apple but they never believe in their own products.

You look at them during the PS4 gen and how dominant they were, yet how little they leveraged that to expand and get rid of Xbox. They acquired a single studio late in the gen as a response to multiple MS acquisitions, Insomniac(a studio that mostly made games for them already), closed 3 studios right before it in 2012 (Bigbig, Zipper, Psygnosis) then closed 3 more studios in the following years(Evolution, Guerrilla Cambridge, Machester Studios) and got rid of their once big PC publisher arm (Sony Online Entretainment).

In the PS5 gen they closed Japan Studios (a small part of it turned into Team Asobi), Pixelopus, acquired Bungie to make multiplataform games, started to release MLB day on on Gamepass (and not on PS+), acquire Bluepoint, Housemarque, Firesprite/Fabrik (studios that already made games for them), Valkyrie (support studio for PlayStation games), Nixxes (PC port house), set up Haven and Firewalk (two new GaaS studios that never released a game) and Savage Studios (a mobile game developer). Changed their police and from now on are expected to release all their games on PC sooner or later.

This is what MS did while having the struggling Xbox One console on the market:
Bought Mojang in 2014, Undead Labs/Obsidian/Ninja Theory/inXile/Compulsion/Double Fine/Playground in 2018 and also founded The Initiative. The only non-completelly obscure studio they closed during that time was Lionhead.

Now with another strugling console on the market they just go an buy Bethesda folowed up by Activsion Blizzard two massive publishers and removed all their future games from PlayStation with the exception of CoD.

It's ridiculously one sided and it's important to remember that before we actually feel the effects of most of this stuff Xbox was still somewhat competitive somehow (mostly because of aggressive prices, deals, willingness to eat losses, all things that they'll have even more incentive to do if they feel they got PlayStation on the ropes).
 
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