Square Enix goes multiplatform, focus on quality then quantity
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What he's referring to is probably this slide:
FOD Campaign
why are Steller Blade Rise of Ronin Helldivers 2 successful and made profit but FF16 and FF7 Rebirth couldn't
did they said that those people will move to other studios? not firing?
okey, they will move on to those studios, who is to say it will add to quality? then follow up, if those devs couldn't make a small game which were shit, how adding shit devs add to more quality? would it be that they would dilute quality instead?
i know, OG questions was loaded, it was more like rhetorical, we know that quantity is counter productive quality and going multiplatform dilute quality.
Again, 0 explanation how this is the case. How is the PC initiative have anything to do with Square Enix releasing HD games on all platforms? Better not participate in any discussions if this is all you can bring up.
I mean Capcom fanbase is perfectly acceptable with pushing the same cookie cutter remakes and same games year on year.
There was a genuine push to make Dragons Dogma 2 GOTY because it was a Multiplatform release and FF7 Rebirth wasn't
its a disgrace what is happening to this industry
Not only that but even if there’s no Xbox port because the next Xbox handheld will be more like PC where it’s open & can play Steam/PC games Xbox would be getting Square Enix games no matter what + PS games
Which will make Sony do 2 things continue releasing games on Steam or make them exclusive to a PS PC launcher but even then because Xbox console is more open it would be able to still play PS games even if it was exclusive to a PS PC launcher. So yuh this PC initiative has been disastrous it doesn’t make sense. The only things that make sense are live service multiplayer games but singleplayer games should never go to any other platform outside PS console if PS wants to increase profits increase output if PS wants to expand market/exposure make games in the franchise in different genre like Nintendo you have side scrolling Mario & 3d Mario or Forza Horizon & Horizok Motorsport. If PS wants to increase profit of these singleplayer games put mtx that is solely cosmetic let me play as Nathan drake or the syphon filter guy in days gone sell it for $10 he’ll if it’s fully voice acted I’d pay $20. Or decrease game budget go back to platform action base GOW or creat a 2nd team that makes GOW in the style of PS1-PS3 GOW that has a much less budget & focus on fun gameplay & creative bosses + put more 2-4 player online coop to more of your PS games. GOT with 2-4 player online coop through the campaign would be insane or 2-4 player online coop in Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart would be mad fun
Square are following Capcom
and in the end Sony will follow both of them
AAA gaming is finished
is not SE, it is biased media, shills and xbot and steambot with smeating campaigns and FUD.
oh, capcom, media lovers. it is like nintendo, it doesn't matter what shit they pull off, media just ignore it. but forbid Sony or SE will do a step sideway, all hell break loose.
MS bought multiple publishers while there consumer no longer bought games on its platform also its platform & subscription has fall off of a cliff & flatline. PlayStation doesn’t has that problem. Not really a 1 to 1 comparison
Look at the decrease in quality in Capcom games but no one is saying shit about it because it is Multiplatform
people waited 10+ years for DDogma2 and it ended up being fucking awful. But the media tried to push it as Game of the Year. This years Elden Ring until the players actually played it and realised it was crap
That is the PC gaming in a fucking nutshell. If you want high quality blockbuster titles Stay Far Away from Steam
This isn't surprising they're losing money left and right due to their leadership they currently have their mobile game FFBE War of the Visions which just had its 4th anniversary just announced they won't be doing any English audio anymore and this was one of their mobile games that turned a decent profit. The company has turned into a joke now. This just means their quality games are going to be M.S standard watered down garbage now.
Forspoken & Foamstars bombed, DQ spin-offs, Harvestella and Collection of Mana too on Switch. Their strategy is all over the place.
FF isn't doing Horizon/GoW numbers on PS to carry the publisher financials, and that's quite telling. I have been saying Square isn't attaining the new-gen for a long time with their games, it's all aging gamers. FF16 is proof; outselling Rebirth and them confirming it appeals to a younger demographic. The new gen don't give AF about the cast of 7 cause they simply lack the nostalgia. Nier Automata basically is on the sales level of 7 Remake. Despite that FF7-3 is the final one of the deal, it also probably means Sony is not signing any more titles although I would advocate Nier & Yoko Taro is worth the money.
I assume at Square they are worried how DQ12 & KH4 is going to perform, is it going to run on Switch 2 with UE5 (on a smaller userbase as well). DQ sold 2 million in the west, it's the opposite of FF.. will be interesting to see.
FF isn't doing Horizon/GoW numbers on PS to carry the publisher financials, and that's quite telling. I have been saying Square isn't attaining the new-gen for a long time with their games, it's all aging gamers. FF16 is proof; outselling Rebirth and them confirming it appeals to a younger demographic. The new gen don't give AF about the cast of 7 cause they simply lack the nostalgia. Nier Automata basically is on the sales level of 7 Remake. Despite that FF7-3 is the final one of the deal, it also probably means Sony is not signing any more titles although I would advocate Nier & Yoko Taro is worth the money.
I assume at Square they are worried how DQ12 & KH4 is going to perform, is it going to run on Switch 2 with UE5 (on a smaller userbase as well). DQ sold 2 million in the west, it's the opposite of FF.. will be interesting to see.
Square and Sony thinking releasing this shit on PC will help them gain profits??
No the only reason Sega and Capcom are doing this well is because they can churn out cheap Remakes of old games year on year or cookie cutter sequels with no change to them
the PC initiative is a fallacy for lower quality monotonised games
No the only reason Sega and Capcom are doing this well is because they can churn out cheap Remakes of old games year on year or cookie cutter sequels with no change to them
the PC initiative is a fallacy for lower quality monotonised games
Sony doesn’t have a 1st party rpg studio and SE filled that gap for them. I hope all the Twitter praise and Xbox podcasts praising them will make up the difference in sales.
and filled with MTX too.
overall, if that was Sony game or SE, it would be mixed with shit.
+ if the game would have been that good, we would hear no end to it on media, but DD2 disappeared from media very fast.
How can it be a FUD campaign when they're one who are saying "We need to change how we operate, because it's not enough" is Square Enix themselves? Look, I get that you've got pundits and twitter warriors constantly console warring, especially when it comes to FF and Square Enix, but these guys are not worth giving your time.
The entity worth listening to is the actual publisher actually paying for the development of those games, and they're saying they need to pivot.
Japanese studios are extremely talent starved, they can't find enough new hires. None of them is firing people.
They're just going to move those employees into larger teams.
Most of the lower budget games lead developers were not actually internal Square Enix projects, they were outsourced.
Harvestella: Live Wire
Various Daylife: DokiDoki Groove Works
Etc...
You can just check the wiki page from Square Enix games: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Square_Enix_video_games and sort by most recent and look at who's doing most of the work.
They're going to reduce the amount of those projects, and the internal staff that were helping those smaller studios with some of the work will now be put to work on internal projects instead.