Go play baldur's gate, an actual good game that's not a 6 or 7/10
Starfield | Review & Discussion Thread
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FF16 definitely has a better story than Starfield so far. I'll leave full review until I've finished it, but FF16 was interesting and well presented, which so far appears to be the complete opposite of Starfield which presents its story as "travel around to isolated temples to unlock space magic." Most of the main story quests genuinely seem like they could be side quests, there isn't any pomp or prestige to them like you get in the main content usually.
People are already seething on the Steam forums: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1716740/discussions/0/3824173836668833392/
To quote user Tyke's comment in the thread about low CCUs:
"The low player count is a result of not low sales, but many of those sales being refunded.
store.steampowered.com
Here you can see the recent large spike, which is solely Starfield's pre-release access. In total around 300,000 excess refunds, and that's just Steam alone. Quite ugly for Bethesda to have around 300,000 refunds just on Steam merely in the pre-release access period."
Very possible a lot of people got their money back when they could. If I had purchased on Steam instead of premium upgrade on Game Pass, I certainly would have requested a refund.
To quote user Tyke's comment in the thread about low CCUs:
"The low player count is a result of not low sales, but many of those sales being refunded.
Steam: Support Statistics
Very possible a lot of people got their money back when they could. If I had purchased on Steam instead of premium upgrade on Game Pass, I certainly would have requested a refund.
imagine shitting on Starfield but praising FFXVI.
hopefully, their creative and financial failures (we already know FF16 is one) serve as a wake the fuck up call for these companies and fix their bullshit.(we also know SE is trying to fix them, but they are so incompetent that think is going to take them 20 years).
yeah S-E is so fucked up.
FF16 is like a 16 oz ribeye that is cooked wrong, like they only put seasoning on one side of the steak so part of it is really good and part of it is really bad. Starfield is like a Mcdonald's burger, it's mediocre throughout.imagine shitting on Starfield but praising FFXVI.
hopefully, their creative and financial failures (we already know FF16 is one) serve as a wake the fuck up call for these companies and fix their bullshit.(we also know SE is trying to fix them, but they are so incompetent that think is going to take them 20 years).
yeah S-E is so fucked up.
Who cares about Steam fanboy. LolStarfield sitting at a very postive rating on Steam.
They're completely different games so I don't think it's possible to hold them as better or worse than other directly. I said FF16 has a better story and is presented better. What's the argument that Starfield does this better than FF16?imagine shitting on Starfield but praising FFXVI.
hopefully, their creative and financial failures (we already know FF16 is one) serve as a wake the fuck up call for these companies and fix their bullshit.(we also know SE is trying to fix them, but they are so incompetent that think is going to take them 20 years).
yeah S-E is so fucked up.
FWIW I think there is some good in Starfield and an enjoyable core, it's bogged down by a lot of bad, and conflicting design decisions. Same thing for FF16 in ways, but I don't think they're as obnoxious or as ruinous.
you can say the game is objectively bad all you want. And it won't change anything lol. Most people who played disagree with you. I can find bad reviews for all types of great games. Does that mean their valid? Since you keep implying good reviews don't matter even if most people say its a good game. Your opinion won't change into fact my boy. Its just how it is.
This is so accurate and I’ve often just said “ … what?!” While playing this game. Reminds me of one of the main missions where a certain character SWEARS you aren’t getting your hands on a particular map, as a result of a feud going back decades. But you go talk to him for literally 15 seconds and he goes “well … ok. It’s in the next room.” Like I said … what?! Lol
The entire game has this exact feeling of being breezily inconsequential. We are finding these so called miraculous artifacts and no one really seems to care. Every mission is wrapped up really quickly and then it’s on to the next thing, which also wraps up really quickly.
Combine that with dated visuals, the barren maps, the fact so much of the game feels like it happens in menus.
I think it feels less fun and less impressive than Skyrim personally. You can run around that game and it feels like you’re actually somewhere. You can be running through the mountains, the sun goes down, and the fantastic soundtrack is playing while you hear crickets chirping as you explore. There is none of that feeling in this game. At least so far. But I’m only ten hours in of course.
I am going to try and still finish it because I’d like to have completing it under my belt. But it is an outdated, extremely average game.
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it doesn't matter. both are shitty travesties of bad management , lack of vision and lack of tech investment.
is like trying that dish expecting the familiar taste of a flavourful and filling Japanese soup but instead, you were served an entirely unexpected, unrelated bland and tasteless cuisine; it's like ordering ramen and getting white bread.
in the other case is like trying a dish with a comforting taste of a beloved classic, but it felt like the ingredients were half-baked. It's like ordering a pizza with all your favorite toppings, but the undercooked crust and unbalanced flavors ruin the entire food.
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One thing is for certain. is THE superior game and better be GOTY in the dorito's popo circus.
Oooooof down 8% within a couple of hours.
I think TotK still has a strong chance (although I would be thrilled for bg3 to win, as imo it's better for the industry)
Yep 100% agree with all this. I've done the map quest, and I choseThis is so accurate and I’ve often just said “ … what?!” While playing this game. Reminds me of one of the main missions where a certain character SWEARS you aren’t getting your hands on a particular map, as a result of a feud going back decades. But you go talk to him for literally 15 seconds and he goes “well … ok. It’s in the next room.” Like I said … what?! Lol
The entire game has this exact feeling of being breezily inconsequential. We are finding these so called miraculous artifacts and no one really seems to care. Every mission is wrapped up really quickly and then it’s on to the next thing, which also wraps up really quickly.
Combine that with dated visuals, the barren maps, the fact so much of the game feels like it happens in menus.
I think it feels less fun and less impressive than Skyrim personally. You can run around that game and it feels like you’re actually somewhere. You can be running through the mountains, the sun goes down, and the fantastic soundtrack is playing while you hear crickets chirping as you explore. There is none of that feeling in this game. At least so far. But I’m only ten hours in of course.
I am going to try and still finish it because I’d like to have completing it under my belt. But it is an outdated, extremely average game.
bringing the daughter to get the maps, and there was zero push back. I just asked the daughter, the guy says uh I'd prefer not to, but you just overrule him and it's done.
I saw a comment elsewhere that said "In Skyrim when you're running to A, you get distracted by B, and explore the world." Which is true, and in Starfield you don't get that because you usually fast travel where you're going, and the way the world is designed you're never travelling in places where lots of content may distract you. In procgen content you go right to the POI, everything else is empty.
I will finish it because I don't want to be accused of not doing so, or missing something that might redeem it a little. I have to say it's interesting that most people who are positive about the game don't appear to quantify what they're talking about in the manner we are doing with criticism. Why can't Crow say how the mechanics and world are good in an in-depth way, but we can point out the flaws? I think many people lauding it haven't played it but for some reason, whether it's Xbox or BGS related, want to defend it.
