Starfield | Review & Discussion Thread

[nongkris]

Hogwarts was lower because there was 3 days early access but then it doubled on release. Starfield barely moved

Completely forgot hogwarts was early access. I'm not doubting that Starfield is a commercial success, I think the game will break even. I wouldn't say that MS got 7 billion worth of gamepass subs from this one little game.

If this game cost 400 million to develop/market, and lets take the high inaccurate estimate of 2 million sold for early access at $100 dollars, that only covers development costs.

 

[Arc]

BG3 will 100% be GOTY. The only reason I imagine it wouldn't get this are industry people being upset that the game made them look like fools.

I was talking sales, but honestly, that would be a similar upset with several fantastic games in the mix this year.

 

[ethomaz]

BG3 will 100% be GOTY. The only reason I imagine it wouldn't get this are industry people being upset that the game made them look like fools.

For now it is either BG3 or TotK.
Let's see if any others released until end of year get close.

 

[laynelane]

Not surprising for a Bethesda game. The era of them releasing buggy, glitchy games with very few consequences should have ended long ago. There's no excuse for it although the idea that developing for fewer SKUs (ie. excluding Sony) would result in better games (technically) was good for a laugh.

 

[ethomaz]

Completely forgot hogwarts was early access. I'm not doubting that Starfield is a commercial success, I think the game will break even. I wouldn't say that MS got 7 billion worth of gamepass subs from this one little game.

If this game cost 400 million to develop/market, and lets take the high inaccurate estimate of 2 million sold for early access at $100 dollars, that only covers development costs.

7 billion worth of gamepass subs?

I mean even with 30 million subs you don't get that in a year of Gamepass subs.
You need like 50 million subs in a whole year to get these 7 billion revenue.

And that being super optimists that everybody in these 50 million subscribe for 1 year without cancel.

 

[Gods&Monsters]

You guys have so many threads going about Starfield. Why not condense the threads. This forum has turned into "Hate Starfield" forum. Carry on.

This is nothing compared to FF16. This place is small.

GAF/ERA had 3-4 threads going with thousands of members and 30-40 pages each. It went on for weeks.

You reap what you sow.

 

[anonpuffs]

This is nothing compared to FF16. This place is small.

GAF/ERA had 3-4 threads going with thousands of members and 30-40 pages each. It went on for weeks.

You reap what you sow.

They had way more than 3-4 threads going lol, it was like 3-4 threads per day

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

you guys are freaking out about nothing. People are waiting for the weekend. those numbers are going to launch to the stratosphere once Friday night hits

 

[Nimrota]

Kind of laughing to myself thinking that Steam reviews are a better indicator of sales than CCUs. Maybe for a game that is several years old, but what, the average Starfield player on Steam bought it, gave it a review, and no longer is playing it?

 

[anonpuffs]

you guys are freaking out about nothing. People are waiting for the weekend. those numbers are going to launch to the stratosphere once Friday night hits

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I just figure Xbox's master plan:

PC Game Pass is just broken forcing people to buy it on steam.

you can not deny Phil is a genius.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

 

[Gods&Monsters]

What do you guys think is a reasonable number for stsrfield concurrent numbers? I’d say anything under 400k is probably a monumental flop but idk what ms/Bethesda are expecting.

Beating Fallout 4 from 8 years ago is the bare minimum. It was 473k. Back then Steam was way smaller. It should match it at least.

Everybody until today was sure it would surpass Fallout 4 on Day 1. It couldn't even manage 275k

 

[Nimrota]

What do you guys think is a reasonable number for stsrfield concurrent numbers? I’d say anything under 400k is probably a monumental flop but idk what ms/Bethesda are expecting.

Based on the marketing, the hype, other big games from recently (Elden Ring, Hogwarts, BG3) I would say anything less than 500k is a flop. As Gods&Monsters says above, beating FO4 is the bare minimum that the game should be expected to do. Even IF people are playing on Game Pass (which to be fair I am since I had a free trial) there is a big difference between playing on Game Pass, and purchasing on Steam. Even IF CCUs across PC Game Pass and Steam were 500k, I think that is still disastrous because the barrier for entry is so low, and largely risk free on Game Pass, that not being able to do much better than FO4 from almost a decade ago shows people are uninterested in the product. How many CCUs would Baldur's Gate 3 or Elden Ring have had if they were on Game Pass? The levels of engagement with Starfield and other titles is so wildly disparate.

 

[KiryuRealty]

Based on the marketing, the hype, other big games from recently (Elden Ring, Hogwarts, BG3) I would say anything less than 500k is a flop. As Gods&Monsters says above, beating FO4 is the bare minimum that the game should be expected to do. Even IF people are playing on Game Pass (which to be fair I am since I had a free trial) there is a big difference between playing on Game Pass, and purchasing on Steam. Even IF CCUs across PC Game Pass and Steam were 500k, I think that is still disastrous because the barrier for entry is so low, and largely risk free on Game Pass, that not being able to do much better than FO4 from almost a decade ago shows people are uninterested in the product. How many CCUs would Baldur's Gate 3 or Elden Ring have had if they were on Game Pass? The levels of engagement with Starfield and other titles is so wildly disparate.

Don’t forget, Microsoft cancelled the PS5 release because they thought they could drive Xbox console sales with this game, so anything short of a million opening week for it is a complete disaster.

This could, and hopefully will, be the straw that breaks the camel’s back for Phil Spencer’s tenure at Microsoft.

 

[Box]

Why is Anyone even surprised by this? Phil Spencer at it again with his lies and hype for yet another broken product

 

[Nimrota]

Don’t forget, Microsoft cancelled the PS5 release because they thought they could drive Xbox console sales with this game, so anything short of a million opening week for it is a complete disaster.

This could, and hopefully will, be the straw that breaks the camel’s back for Phil Spencer’s tenure at Microsoft.

Out of curiosity I just checked Amazon gaming best sellers for my country:

1. Spiderman duallsense controller.
4. Midnight Black dualsense controller.
7. Starfield (PC).
13. White dualsense controller.
14. Spiderman 2.
15. Starfield (Xbox).

Pretty grim stuff for Xbox.

 

[Would_you_kindly]

Steam numbers won’t go up much. Anyone else that jumped on today for pc is on windows gamespass and not steam, which everyone likes to ignore to suit their flawed sales comparisons. Sales discussion for Starfield is moot. Its purpose is to sell $12 subs. We won’t ever see windows player stat tho.

I'm sure steam is over the moon about the Activision blizzard merger that they're supporting then seen as gamepass is canniblizing sales on steam for big Bethesda games already according to you

 

[KiryuRealty]

Out of curiosity I just checked Amazon gaming best sellers for my country:

1. Spiderman duallsense controller.
4. Midnight Black dualsense controller.
7. Starfield (PC).
13. White dualsense controller.
14. Spiderman 2.
15. Starfield (Xbox).

Pretty grim stuff for Xbox.

Holy fuck, Goodbye, Volcano High is ACTUALLY going to outsell Starfail on consoles, isn’t it?

 

[Dabaus]

I wonder if starfield under performing entered MSs wildest imagination?