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during the ps4/xbo generation it -was- easy to do that. I built a GTX 970 rig with 3x the GPU power of a ps4 and like 3x the CPU power for $800 2 years after the PS4 came out.
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So for double the price 2 years after the gen began you built a more powerful rig? Damn, congratulations, you just proved my point.
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The 970 released in 2014. If I wanted to I could have built it earlier. If I wanted to scale down the parts I could have done so too. Where did you miss that I said that $600-$1000 is the ideal budget pc? Are you just picking a fight for shits and gigs?
You are bringing an inferior hardware that cannot keep up with PS5 few years from now. And is still pricey.
Give it up. Nothing matches consoles when it comes to price, performance, plug&play and exclusive content.
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As long as they're not in the red it's not a backfire - anything but a backfire. They got a word for the current situation in business.... market "self correction". Suppliers would take the same decisions given the choice again in a similar circumstances. It's business. They push the margins until they can no longer reasonably push. Money is the beginning, the middle and the end of all discussions. Suppliers felt they had more leverage on the market, thus they exploited that leverage for greater gain. Serfs become poorer and/or no longer have the same incentive for similar demand = "market correction". Their job now is to soften the landing and keep it all in the green, which they will - more than likely.The Master Race meme is not a big population, people with top of the line expensive af cards will always be a minority, they also supply the used market of the next batch (the majority) of players that can't afford the luxury while Nvidia + AMD supply top - mid cards for everyone interested
There was a niche that used to pay top dollar for the most expensive cards and that was ok, then the crypto fad happened and these greedy douches in the industry thought rising the price on everything was going to be the new normal, poor idiots, it totally backfired on them the moment crypto bubble popped
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How much mental gymnastics has PCMR guys had to go through to try to match the Console price/performance.
PS5 DE with a DualSense controller included at $399.
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how insecure do console fans have to be to constantly make up strawmen lol
it's true at launch, but sure, ps4 days it was easy to get better price/perf in the midrange, especially a couple years after launch. For example the GTX 1070 came out in 2016 and was 3.5x the performance of a ps4 GPU at $380 MSRP. Matching parts would give you 4x the performance of a ps4 for between 2.5x-triple the price (vs $300 ps4, at $400 ps4 it was even easier). Hence, better price/perf. The funny thing is that ya'll aren't happy with having dedicated AAA developers that focus efforts on making the games run better on your platform, and have to try to dick measure against PC people without even understanding what's being compared.
You are the one doing dumpster diving to get parts for your builds.
The 1070 is missing a lot of features and is nowhere near whatever the ps5 had, not even a 2060 would be a match (I owned both of these GPUs at some point).
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Why do PCMR only ever do price/power ocmparisons between a GPU and a console? A console has a HDD/SDD, RAm, CPU, Motherboard, GPU, Case, Disc Drive, PSU, HDMI cable, USB cable and a pad.
If you compare a PS5+PSVR2 build you don't even need to include the price of a monitor.
If you compare a PS5+PSVR2 build you don't even need to include the price of a monitor.
Also mentioned that they picked a 1070 because It has a ratio around 3.8x base ps4 GPU. For some hypothetical ps5 comparison.
I think that this is because MS or some of their fan said that the series x would compare to a 1080 at some point before release.
I still love the “PS5 isn’t true RDNA 2” talking point, even after AMD has publically said that there were features in the PS5 GPU that they incorporated into RDNA 2 that weren’t initially going to be in the spec, and that the PS5 exceeds the RDNA 2 spec in multiple ways, hence it not being advertised as such.
Then again, admitting they’ve read that means they can’t keep downplaying what a genius hardware designer Mark Cerny is, which we all know would kill them to be honest about.
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The dumpster diving is BECAUSE the hardware companies are so greedy now. Hence the point of this post. Back when we actually had reasonable prices I would've never considered buying second hand hardware.
They "pivoted" to crypto mining instead of just do their business, 10-15 years ago AMD/Radeon was the go-to for crypto as the Nvidia cards didn't have whatever necessary to run those scam machines, then they started to cater to that mob as well, fast forward they were trying to push insane prices to serve the crypto trash while screwing their core customers thinking they'd buy at any price
Everyone biught their cards over the last 2 years, and there's little reason to upgrade gen on gen with these prices. Plus there's a ton of used cards from crypto dying.
I'm set for the rest of the gen. I'm never going back to consoles. They're too gross.
I'm set for the rest of the gen. I'm never going back to consoles. They're too gross.