yuzu will pay $2.4 million in damages to Nintendo to settle their lawsuit

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Yes, emulation is good and an extremely important contribution to the overall gaming culture.

Even if you "don't support emulating new games", you'd have to support the development of contemporary emulators to be consistent with the rest of your post.

And again, I don't think there's a good argument for gamers to be concerned with copyright infringement at all. Everything in your self interest is for strong legal protection on the side of the emulators, encryption crackers, and even distributors of infringing material. On the other side, against your interests as an individual is the corporate copyright holder.
Won't you think of the children, I mean the poor companies.
 

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My simple opinion.

Yuzu is illegal.

You will ask why?

Because it doesn't force the user to own the game he wants to play.
It basically doesn't have any mechanics to validate the user using it has a legal copy of the game.
That makes it illegal.

And more it is incentive indirectly priracy via YT, Twitter, Pateon and more.

How do you do a non illegal emulator?

Simple.
Add any mechanisms to check if the user has a legal copy of the game.
Like reading the own Nintendo game cards and checking their legality.

But Yuzu cared about that? No.
It was malicious using others properties to get money from users.
completely incoherent ideas and unsubstantiated legal assertions which contradict actual case law.

btw, do you think Nintendo WOULDNT sue an emulator which somehow enforced legal ROM dumps? of course they would. that's not the point at all.
 

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Add any mechanisms to check if the user has a legal copy of the game.
Like reading the own Nintendo game cards and checking their legality.
How do you enforce that? PS emulators require a BIOS file you're supposed to get off of your own console but none of them require game verification.

Serious question. This topic's interesting.

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Page the mods because something's about to happen. We agree on a topic? One of the signs of the apocalypse.
 

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How do you enforce that? PS emulators require a BIOS file you're supposed to get off of your own console but none of them require game verification.

Serious question. This topic's interesting.

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I don't know.
That is for Yuzu to research and do.

For example Bleem was a legal emulator.
It required the user to insert a legal copy of the game to play it.
 

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John Kirby trained Nintendo lawyer ninja assassins very well. He must be smiling in heaven (or hell?) right now.
 

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completely incoherent ideas and unsubstantiated legal assertions which contradict actual case law.

btw, do you think Nintendo WOULDNT sue an emulator which somehow enforced legal ROM dumps? of course they would. that's not the point at all.
It is not incoherent.

It is what separates legal from illegal imo.
And I don't think dump ROM should be allowed because it can be shared, sold, etc... it become illegal.
You need to have the actual copy of the game to play it via emulator and not a ROM dump.

Yuzu is illegal imo.
 
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It is not incoherent.

It is what makes it legal vs illegal.

Yuzu is illegal.
for a start it's incoherent because there's no way to do what you're asserting is the legal standard to do. does Apple's Rosetta emulator check the copyright legitimacy of every binary it runs? it's a joke to suggest it.

and AGAIN: Nintendo would still sue an emulator that attempted to be "legal" by your definition because THEY OPPOSE EMULATION
 

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for a start it's incoherent because there's no way to do what you're asserting is the legal standard to do. does Apple's Rosetta emulator check the copyright legitimacy of every binary it runs? it's a joke to suggest it.

and AGAIN: Nintendo would still sue an emulator that attempted to be "legal" by your definition because THEY OPPOSE EMULATION
I mean Rosetta is like Nintendo releasing on PC it own emulator to Switch.
What is illegal about that? lol

Rosetta do translate old Mac instructions to new Mac instructions.

A game emulator can be legal if it forces the users only to use the legal copy of a game... like inserting the disc/card on your PC to check if it is a legal copy.
If not it is illegal imo.
 
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Citra is being shutdown as well


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Interesting. Seemed like Nintendo honed in on Yuzu Patreon and whatever activities that were going on there to make their case for the lawsuit and succeeded.