The Verge: Pentiment is set to be the first game to go multiplatform
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I appreciate the cynicism, however, I've been told the same shit for nigh-on two decades by varying flavours of forum posters and, I've yet to be wrong about the direction of a console manufacturer.
Besides, we don't need to know the ins and outs of a private strategy is we can see the effects and direction of it, clear as day.
The switch is old news. Many will want to ride the coat tails of the popularity of the switch and jump on the Switch 2 bandwagon.
Switch 2 and Sony has already started porting games to PC. It's not a far leap to get them running on a steam deck (if they don't already) or a switch 2.
They already do with PC.
I'm sure, on this very forum, you will find posts of people decrying the very idea of putting PS5 games on PC AND laughing at Microsoft for doing so.
Yet here we are.
I've been hearing the "recession upon us" drum for 5 years now, and so far, other than a very small contraction in some countries, there's no recession. As for the market being smaller, not it isn't.
edit: And there's many countries, not just one.
Bigger than last gen.
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Me bookmarking your post would mean me caring. The PS5 is outselling the PS4 launch aligned, and nothing points to that changing.
If things are bad for Xbox then surely than means they are bad for PlayStation.
Somebody think of the children.
Somebody think of the children.
Who knows if the Switch 2 is even going to be much more powerful than a Steam Deck. Steam Deck hardly cuts it when it comes to running the latest PS5 games even at lower res.
I think it's way more likely for Sony to show up with their own native portable device or to open their own store on PC than to start releasing their games on Switch, Nintendo console aren't really known for selling that many third party games and I don't think most Sony games are a good fit for it.
What is this assertion based upon?
Gaming surpasses both movies and music combined in terms of spending by about 20%. And that gap has been growing in the past decade. Moreover, gaming spending will surpass global TV spending in a few years.
They port "some" games not all and they are usually older titles.
Not the same as the stupidity that is MS handling of Xbox/PC.
I'd advise ignoring the sleepybrown-esque Sony Toomer. He has no fucking clue what he's talking about and is frankly publicly embarrassing himself.
The only thing he's successfully done is turn the topic away from Xbox's public humiliation - being forced to give away its former prized exclusives in search of income from a competitor they once boasted they could 'spend out of business'.
There's literally no reason for Sony to ship on other consoles, and apart from their misguided attempt to port to PC in search of incremental margins, there are no parallels to be drawn between the moribund Xbox brand and the rising star that is PlayStation.
Fuck Xbox. Fuck Microsoft.
The only thing he's successfully done is turn the topic away from Xbox's public humiliation - being forced to give away its former prized exclusives in search of income from a competitor they once boasted they could 'spend out of business'.
There's literally no reason for Sony to ship on other consoles, and apart from their misguided attempt to port to PC in search of incremental margins, there are no parallels to be drawn between the moribund Xbox brand and the rising star that is PlayStation.
Fuck Xbox. Fuck Microsoft.
MS started doing day 1 Steam releases in 2019, and they'd be even more screwed today if they hadn't. How can you even greenlight the development of a game as big as Starfield with only ~15M customers to sell to?
You're the one who brought up the Switch. Now it's old news because I questioned whether it could run the Sony first-party games you also brought up. It's telling that you view questioning of your opinions, which you keep stating as facts, as cynicism. Also, 'I'm always right and everyone else is wrong' (been that way for two decades) indicates this is not a dicussion. My mistake in thinking otherwise.
au contraire mon frere. If Xbox never dipped their toes into PC in 2016, they'd be in a significantly better position today.
They would be in a much better position if Xbox never existed tho. Steam exists because MS spent years treating PC player like shit thinking they had something in Xbox.
Thankfully they made about every mistake they could've made over the years, complete clowns.
PC gaming was honestly better when Microsoft (not Xbox) was more involved, Steam completely eradicated physical games, at least a ton of Games for Windows Live games got physical releases! And did you notice that once GFWL left, the Steam flash sales completely disappeared and the storefront started to become more stale? Steam isn't what it once was sadly.
Even the GTA 4 Games For Windows Live version with the physical CD for PC from 2013 STILL works today. GFWL got a lot of undeserved hate, and now PC gamers lost physical games forever. I hope you guys are happy, you guys cheered on a monopoly and now have less options
The MS push for Games For Windows Live was one of the worst time periods in PC gaming, it's easy to tell you don't play on PC. Microsoft endgames was to charge for Live Gold on PC, complete absurd and rightfully rejected. I specifically remember trying to play GTAIV and Street Fighter IV online and running into a lot of issue due to Games for Windows Live, it sucked and barely worked.PC gaming was honestly better when Microsoft (not Xbox) was more involved, Steam completely eradicated physical games, at least a ton of Games for Windows Live games got physical releases! And did you notice that once GFWL left, the Steam flash sales completely disappeared and the storefront started to become more stale? Steam isn't what it once was sadly.
Even the GTA 4 Games For Windows Live version with the physical CD for PC from 2013 STILL works today. GFWL got a lot of undeserved hate, and now PC gamers lost physical games forever. I hope you guys are happy
Digital distribution works on PC because it has multiple stores competing and also a massive pressure coming from how easy and popular piracy is. Gaben use to talk about that in the Steam early days.
On console that role is played by physical media and the used games market. What did MS tried to do the moment they felt they had enough power to pull it off? They tried to kill the used games market and enforce always on (even now they still push harder than anyone for digital only future). They fucking suck and I want them as far away from gaming as possible.
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I might have criticism for some of Sony's business strategies but, I'm also glad I'm not a pessimist with a bad read on things like you are with this topic regarding PlayStation.
You've managed to somehow adopt all the doom-and-gloom talking points Xbox fanatics have tried using against PlayStation for years, and re-contextualize them as legitimate reads & prognosis. How you deluded yourself into that, I dunno.
Again, I think there are quite a lot of things Sony could be doing better, and I'd like to talk more comprehensively about that soon. But trying to imply games doing 11+ million copies in a couple months, or 5.5+ million in a week, as "poor sales" shows you're either very ignorant about sales data or you're being a troll. Because if those sales are "poor", I would wonder what you'd call the sales of games like RE4 Remake, Tekken 8, SF6, Super Mario Wonder, Splatoon 3, Pikmin 4, Sea of Thieves, FF7 Remake, Demon's Souls 3, or even Palworld.
No one's going to be pointing back at this post of yours saying "they were a genius and right all along!". No, we're going to be pointing and laughing at how someone could've misread this so badly. But at least you can hopefully see where your thinking went bad, and maybe rethink your takes.
I've been gaming on PC since 2002! Real PC gamers know the hate for GFWL was ALWAYS overblown by Valve fanboys and Gaben meatriders. And now look where that brought you people
no physical games and worse sales. Psh! This is nothing but a farce. PC gamers love to say this virtue signalling nonsense, but when a game is an Epic or Ubisoft exclusive, they do nothing but cry about it. "Not on Steam? Won't buy"
You guys just use the "multiple store" crap as a talking point, but actually HATE the fact that there are multiple stores. How many games have you bought from GOG or Epic or Ubisoft or Origin? I'll wait. Keep cheering on monopolies, you're only hurting yourself. if you read in my original comment I literally said Microsoft (not Xbox), the way Microsoft handled PC gaming was much better than how Xbox handled console gaming. They weren't even the same teams.
This is more nonsense, physical games are dead on PC and piracy is still rampant. 90% of games are cracked day 1.
Huh? Nowhere did I claim piracy went away lol? And physical games dying is something you don't "come back" from. The reality is piracy was on a huge upswing in the early 2000s and it drove physical games into the dirt. Everyone and their mom had a CD-RW drive (and eventually dvd-r) and a collection of burned mp3s and games. The idea that GFWL was a factor at all is laughable, it was barely a thing.
MS even tied graphics APIs to Windows versions they were always antagonistic to PC gaming while they believed Xbox was going somehwere only when it became clear Xbox failed that they came back with their tail between their legs with their still awful Xbox store and Gamepass.I've been gaming on PC since 2002! Real PC gamers know the hate for GFWL was ALWAYS overblown by Valve fanboys and Gaben meatriders. And now look where that brought you people
Psh! This is nothing but a farce. PC gamers love to say this virtue signalling nonsense, but when a game is an Epic or Ubisoft exclusive, they do nothing but cry about it. "Not on Steam? Won't buy"
if you read in my original comment I literally said Microsoft (not Xbox), the way Microsoft handled PC gaming was much better than how Xbox handled console gaming. They weren't even the same teams.
This is more nonsense, physical games are dead on PC and piracy is still rampant. 90% of games are cracked day 1.
Steam is the only store that supports Linux so I see no reason to support any other stores, I used to buy games on GoG but they didn't bother with properly supporting Linux. Still any publisher can still run their own store and that alongside piracy keeps Steam in check.
You seem to be particularly angry at Valve probably because you are able to recognize that they are the biggest threat to Sony, while a shit store like Epic's isn't a threat to anything.
It doesn't seem like you understand my point about PC piracy, it's obviously not dead but Steam emerged as an alternative to it by offering convenience, aggressive deals, regional pricing, that is their entire business model. Valve isn't pro-consumer, they are pro-making money but on PC to beat piracy you need a great store. Sony clearly doesn't get it and shows up with full priced older games that get cracked day 1 and then wonder why it is that a game like Helldivers makes sells better than Spider-man or God of War.
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