Senua's Saga: Hellblade II Releases on |The Game Awards 2023

JAHGamer

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I didn't throw a fit. All I said was someone needed glasses. Gamers make comments like that all the time. It's supposed to be humorous not portraying a victim.
Man you got beat up so badly you went to make a hfw pc thread in a fit of rage 😂🤣🤣😂 that's exactly what throwing a fit is

Frozone is supposed to be chill but you're like this:

Angry Inside Out GIF by Disney Pixar
 

Gamernyc78

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Man you got beat up so badly you went to make a hfw pc thread in a fit of rage 😂🤣🤣😂 that's exactly what throwing a fit is

Frozone is supposed to be chill but you're like this:

Angry Inside Out GIF by Disney Pixar
Alright guys let's not start the back and forth.
 
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Where it’s at.
I didn't throw a fit. All I said was someone needed glasses. Gamers make comments like that all the time. It's supposed to be humorous not portraying a victim.
Ah, so you suddenly made one comment where you weren’t genuinely displaying the standard Xbox victim complex and we were all supposed to know you were joking that time.

Ok.

Here, these people may be able to help you: Help is out there!
 
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I didn't throw a fit. All I said was someone needed glasses. Gamers make comments like that all the time. It's supposed to be humorous not portraying a victim.
You came into this thread calling it the best looking game of this generation and blowing everything out of the water. If people disagree, you tell them they need glasses or that Sony just has to be better at everything.
 

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You came into this thread calling it the best looking game of this generation and blowing everything out of the water. If people disagree, you tell them they need glasses .... .
Bro, should you really make me want to fish these threads where you guys do the same exact thing?? Really??

There is literally 0 wrong with people saying that they need glasses when the opinions don't align. This site isn't REEE where every comment has to be respectful and none humorous.
 

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Bro, should you really make me want to fish these threads where you guys do the same exact thing?? Really??

There is literally 0 wrong with people saying that they need glasses when the opinions don't align. This site isn't REEE where every comment has to be respectful and none humorous.
Act like a dick, get treated like a dick.

Is it THAT hard to grasp?

Apparently, for the truly hardcore Xbot, it is.


For classes on dealing with the consequences of your own actions, visit the School of Hard Knocks, conveniently located at the corner of Fuck Around and Find Out!
 

Frozone

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Act like a dick, get treated like a dick.

Is it THAT hard to grasp?

Apparently, for the truly hardcore Xbot, it is.
Everyone on here acts like a dick towards MS. Is that cause for me to treat everyone like a dick here? Or is that exempt?
 

DForce

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Bro, should you really make me want to fish these threads where you guys do the same exact thing?? Really??

There is literally 0 wrong with people saying that they need glasses when the opinions don't align. This site isn't REEE where every comment has to be respectful and none humorous.

Yes, people do it when opinions don't align.

This is why people have debates on gaming forums.

Here's your problem:

Basically best looking game at the show and will probably dominate best looking game for this entire generation.

This is a bold statement and you're having a problem with people disagreeing with you and you're trying to come off as the victim. If you make a statement like this, then expect replies from people who disagree with you.
 

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Yes, people do it when opinions don't align.

This is why people have debates on gaming forums.

Here's your problem:



This is a bold statement and you're having a problem with people disagreeing with you and you're trying to come off as the victim. If you make a statement like this, then expect replies from people who disagree with you.
Very true, I agree. Putting definitives on statements that are at this point subjective and also using blanket statements does not foster discussion or fruitful debate, it's actually condescending and gives off an heir of pseudo superiority.
 
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Frozone

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This is a bold statement and you're having a problem with people disagreeing with you and you're trying to come off as the victim. If you make a statement like this, then expect replies from people who disagree with you.
I have no problem with people disagreeing. I fail to see where I'm complaining of being a victim. All I was saying is that it's ok for me to state someome needing glasses. That's not a victim. That's being snide about a comment he made. Is that a bad thing when it's said over and over again about other game disagreements?

Tell you what. Next time when someone disagrees with my comments, I'll take the political stance and say "I disagree with HFW being better. And I'll point to gifs like these:

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to support my comment.
 
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The coalition's new game, Hellblade, and Fable (turn10) will be the new graphics champions when they release. As Sony keeps releasing PS4 ports of TLOU that look the same and Insomniac's graphics seems to have peaked with Ratchet. Decima seems to be the only Sony first party engine that is actually producing next gen visuals.
 

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Very true, I agree. Putting definitives on statements that are at this pont subjective and also using blanket statements does not foster discussion or fruitful debate, it's actually condescending and gives off an heir of pseudo superiority.
My bad then. I won't be so "final" in my comments.
 

Frozone

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The coalition's new game, Hellblade, and Fable (turn10) will be the new graphics champions when they release. As Sony keeps releasing PS4 ports of TLOU that look the same and Insomniac's graphics seems to have peaked with Ratchet. Decima seems to be the only Sony first party engine that is actually producing next gen visuals.
Well said.
 
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AshHunter216

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I personally think it's way too early to so confidently declare who will and won't have the best graphics for this entire generation. Some are just incredibly impatient with regards to PlayStation first party and dont seems to grasp how long AAA game development takes. Others are missing just how much of an impact the Series S's low specs will have on the console versions of Microsoft games.
 

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The coalition's new game, Hellblade, and Fable (turn10) will be the new graphics champions when they release. As Sony keeps releasing PS4 ports of TLOU that look the same and Insomniac's graphics seems to have peaked with Ratchet. Decima seems to be the only Sony first party engine that is actually producing next gen visuals.
I really don't get what's so impressive about these extremely dark fighting scenes where you don't even see anything? I know VFX will always overpraise anything Xbox but what do you see that's leagues above everything else?

I'm baffled where all this praise is coming from 🤷

And Spider-man 2 looked good too 🙃

What's Coalition even doing? So weird.
 

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The coalition's new game, Hellblade, and Fable (turn10) will be the new graphics champions when they release. As Sony keeps releasing PS4 ports of TLOU that look the same and Insomniac's graphics seems to have peaked with Ratchet. Decima seems to be the only Sony first party engine that is actually producing next gen visuals.
Umm...Alan Wake 2 is actually out and looks better than both of them 😂and WTF is the Coalitions new game? 🤣🤣 You're hyping up games that aren't even out yet and will DEFINITELY be downgraded, as Microsoft does with literally all of their games. No idea why you're so keen on giving them undue praise for unreleased games while bashing Sony, when Microsoft themselves said they have nothing close to TLOU2.....and newsflash.....THEY STILL DON'T!!! Matter of fact, they don't even have anything that looks better than Uncharted 4 from 2016 😂

Your disdain for Sony is making you talk crazy!!!

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Frozone

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I really don't get what's so impressive about these extremely dark fighting scenes where you don't even see anything? I know VFX will always overpraise anything Xbox but what do you see that's leagues above everything else?

I'm baffled where all this praise is coming from 🤷

And Spider-man 2 looked good too 🙃

What's Coalition even doing? So weird.
Every game these days looks "pretty good". I'm looking for pushing past the limitations of baked lighting and more texture detail, more geometric detail (i.e. Nanite), and leaning more on what RT can do for a game. In film, everyone now uses path traced graphics engines. That's where you get the most realism from. HB2, AW2, CP2077, Avatar, etc.. are all using RT to solve the problematic baked lighting. HB2 looks so good because it has a photoreal look to it. Lighting is done using Lumen and Nanite shows it's features.

Were you not impressed with the Sony Nanite demo a few years back? Why is it that it's not as impressive anymore when it's actually being used in a game. It shouldn't matter whether it's for Xbox or not.
 

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I have no problem with people disagreeing. I fail to see where I'm complaining of being a victim. All I was saying is that it's ok for me to state someome needing glasses. That's not a victim. That's being snide about a comment he made. Is that a bad thing when it's said over and over again about other game disagreements?

Here's how you try to be the victim

I received resistance as soon as I mentioned the game looking better than anything else out there. Games are allowed to look "good" but not allowed to look "better than anything else out there".

When people disagree with your claim, you start telling people that you're not allowed to say a game looks better than anything else out there.

You're doing the same thing you're accusing people of doing. People can't say HFW looks better than Hellblade 2 without any pushback.

Tell you what. Next time when someone disagrees with my comments, I'll take the political stance and say "I disagree with HFW being better. And I'll point to gifs like these:


to support my comment.

Sure you can post gifs if you want, but people are going to disagree.

While the game looks good, I do believe the dark environment hides a lot of the detail.

Here's an environment with more lighting.

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We can see more of the detail here and it really doesn't stand out to me.

While The Order 1886 did dark environments, those enclosed environments were mostly interior environments that didn't feel flat.

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The key to one of the best looking games isn't always graphical detail, but art direction

Here's an example of the lighter environments when it works with great detail.

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But when it becomes less impressive.

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The point is that I think the darker environments are still lacking that wow factor to me.

I want to see more than just a bridge and boulders from Hellblade 2 because those things just don't stand out to me.
 

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Every game these days looks "pretty good". I'm looking for pushing past the limitations of baked lighting and more texture detail, more geometric detail (i.e. Nanite), and leaning more on what RT can do for a game. In film, everyone now uses path traced graphics engines. That's where you get the most realism from. HB2, AW2, CP2077, Avatar, etc.. are all using RT to solve the problematic baked lighting. HB2 looks so good because it has a photoreal look to it. Lighting is done using Lumen and Nanite shows it's features.

Were you not impressed with the Sony Nanite demo a few years back? Why is it that it's not as impressive anymore when it's actually being used in a game. It shouldn't matter whether it's for Xbox or not.
You say a bunch of meaningless tech words but to my eyes (and I bet the eyes of 99.9% playing these games) it looks nothing special compared to other recent games.

I firmly believe it goes like this for you:

- You look at the logo to make sure it's not Sony-exclusive or made by one of their studios.

- then you shape your opinion with a bunch of buzz words to "prove" it looks better than some other Sony exclusive, even going back 10 years with The Order.

- if it's Xbox it gets +10 and your standards hit rock bottom, everything is amazing wow wow.

It is that simple. You've had the same personality in like 5 forums and it's not going to change.